From mhood at shaw.ca Mon May 28 18:02:35 2007 From: mhood at shaw.ca (mark hood) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:02:35 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! Message-ID: <00db01c7a18d$0b71b350$225519f0$@ca> See above. Uilliam mac Fearchair mhic Gillie Aindrias, GdS, LC, MI Havoc Herald, Tir Righ Baronial Gamesmaster, Lions Gate - per chevron argent and azure, two chessrooks and a winged wolf statant counterchanged - -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uilliam at shaw.ca Mon May 28 19:16:47 2007 From: uilliam at shaw.ca (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Uilliam_mac_Ail=E9ne_mhic_Seamuis?=) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:16:47 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message Message-ID: <465B8D0F.5050002@shaw.ca> Good my lords and ladies, welcome to the first step in the new College of Heralds of Tir Righ! As we move to consolidate our identity as Tir Righ, the College will be ramping up the activity level. If you are interested in consulting, voice heraldry, Court heraldry, administration & process, submissions, whatever it may be, please let Quentin Silver Yale know! Why did the list move? Because we feel that as a principality we should increase our sense of self as the Principality of Tir Righ, and hosting our mailing list - the first one on the server, by the way - is a small step toward that goal. Some may think it picayune, but a sense of identity can be triggered by what may seem to be small things. Anyway, please feel free to jump in here and offer help, ask questions, post heraldic knowledge and lore and anything else. As soon as we can, we'll be getting a subscription link on the Tir Righ website so others can come and pile in. Yours aye, Uilliam Field & Town Crier Deputy Tir Righ Heralds List Admin Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief -- "Take sides! Always take sides! You may sometimes be wrong - but the man who refuses to take sides must *always* be wrong! Heaven save us from poltroons who fear to make a choice!" R.A. Heinlein, "Double Star" -- Main homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/fog.locker/ SCA homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/uilliam/ LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jackytar/ From anthony.hawke at shaw.ca Mon May 28 20:06:39 2007 From: anthony.hawke at shaw.ca (HL Anthony Hawke - GdS) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:06:39 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Style / Conflict check requested Message-ID: Greetings unto the college; I have two clients in the Summits who would like some feedback and if poossible a preliminary conflict check on their proposed devices. The first device I have a few problems with the blazon, and I have a feeling that it would be returned for counterchanging over a complex charge. I have tentatively blazoned it as: Per pale azure and argent, a chevron and overall an eagle displayed counterchanged and in chief a mullet of five points counterchanged. URL: http://picasaweb.google.com/adesinacat/Hardery/photo#5069448937771471986 The second one which I *know* meets the style guidelines is: Gules vetu ploye argent, on a cross recercely gules, a rose argent, slipped and leaved vert. URL:http://picasaweb.google.com/adesinacat/Hardery/photo#5069448061598143570 This second one was done up for the lady in question by a herald in Cour de Val, but as I am this couple's first contact in the SCA (and they are now my Wards), they came to me for assistance. -- In Service to the Tir Righ Coronet, ____________________________________________________________________________ Lord Anthony Hawke; GdS, AA, WOAW Pursuivant, Crickstow-on-Sea Prot?g? to his Excellency, Uilliam mac Aill?n vhic S?amus, OP Facta Omnia Gloria Nihil (The deed is everything. Glory is nothing.) "Per fess sable and Or, a sea-tyger maintaining a rapier inverted counterchanged" From damozel at shaw.ca Mon May 28 20:39:39 2007 From: damozel at shaw.ca (Laura Offley) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:39:39 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! In-Reply-To: <00db01c7a18d$0b71b350$225519f0$@ca> References: <00db01c7a18d$0b71b350$225519f0$@ca> Message-ID: <465BA07B.1040102@shaw.ca> What's a cool idea? Have I missed something? Confused, Maitresse Yolande Chastellain Silver Pillar Herald, Tir Righ (aka OP) mark hood wrote: > > See above. > > > > Uilliam mac Fearchair mhic Gillie Aindrias, GdS, LC, MI > > Havoc Herald, Tir Righ > > Baronial Gamesmaster, Lions Gate > > - per chevron argent and azure, two chessrooks and a winged wolf > statant counterchanged - > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mhood at shaw.ca Mon May 28 22:07:43 2007 From: mhood at shaw.ca (mark hood) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 22:07:43 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! In-Reply-To: <465BA07B.1040102@shaw.ca> References: <00db01c7a18d$0b71b350$225519f0$@ca> <465BA07B.1040102@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <00f801c7a1af$4a5658b0$df030a10$@ca> Oh not much. The name of the group changed, and I was getting all excited. In a silly mood, that's all. Uilliam From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:40 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! What's a cool idea? Have I missed something? Confused, Maitresse Yolande Chastellain Silver Pillar Herald, Tir Righ (aka OP) mark hood wrote: See above. Uilliam mac Fearchair mhic Gillie Aindrias, GdS, LC, MI Havoc Herald, Tir Righ Baronial Gamesmaster, Lions Gate - per chevron argent and azure, two chessrooks and a winged wolf statant counterchanged - _____ _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From damozel at shaw.ca Mon May 28 22:15:32 2007 From: damozel at shaw.ca (Laura Offley) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 22:15:32 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! In-Reply-To: <00f801c7a1af$4a5658b0$df030a10$@ca> References: <00db01c7a18d$0b71b350$225519f0$@ca> <465BA07B.1040102@shaw.ca> <00f801c7a1af$4a5658b0$df030a10$@ca> Message-ID: <465BB6F4.200@shaw.ca> Oh. Funny, though 'cause I received your email before I received the welcome email from Baron Uilliam. Stupid Shaw service provider. Receiving emails out of order is really beginning to get frustrating . . . . Trying to get her silly on, Y mark hood wrote: > > Oh not much. The name of the group changed, and I was getting all > excited. > > > > In a silly mood, that's all. > > > > Uilliam > > > > *From:* collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] *On Behalf Of *Laura Offley > *Sent:* Monday, May 28, 2007 8:40 PM > *To:* collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > *Subject:* Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! > > > > What's a cool idea? Have I missed something? Confused, > > Maitresse Yolande Chastellain > Silver Pillar Herald, Tir Righ > (aka OP) > > mark hood wrote: > > See above. > > > > Uilliam mac Fearchair mhic Gillie Aindrias, GdS, LC, MI > > Havoc Herald, Tir Righ > > Baronial Gamesmaster, Lions Gate > > - per chevron argent and azure, two chessrooks and a winged wolf > statant counterchanged - > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From quentin at shittimwoode.org Tue May 29 07:31:54 2007 From: quentin at shittimwoode.org (Quentin Martel) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 07:31:54 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message In-Reply-To: <465B8D0F.5050002@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Thank you so much for doing so, Master Uilliam! - Quentin Silver Yale -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Uilliam mac Ail?ne mhic Seamuis Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:17 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message Good my lords and ladies, welcome to the first step in the new College of Heralds of Tir Righ! As we move to consolidate our identity as Tir Righ, the College will be ramping up the activity level. If you are interested in consulting, voice heraldry, Court heraldry, administration & process, submissions, whatever it may be, please let Quentin Silver Yale know! Why did the list move? Because we feel that as a principality we should increase our sense of self as the Principality of Tir Righ, and hosting our mailing list - the first one on the server, by the way - is a small step toward that goal. Some may think it picayune, but a sense of identity can be triggered by what may seem to be small things. Anyway, please feel free to jump in here and offer help, ask questions, post heraldic knowledge and lore and anything else. As soon as we can, we'll be getting a subscription link on the Tir Righ website so others can come and pile in. Yours aye, Uilliam Field & Town Crier Deputy Tir Righ Heralds List Admin Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief -- "Take sides! Always take sides! You may sometimes be wrong - but the man who refuses to take sides must *always* be wrong! Heaven save us from poltroons who fear to make a choice!" R.A. Heinlein, "Double Star" -- Main homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/fog.locker/ SCA homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/uilliam/ LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jackytar/ _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM From duncan1466 at yahoo.com Tue May 29 11:35:11 2007 From: duncan1466 at yahoo.com (Duncan Darroch) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <506894.22427.qm@web51103.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Count me in. Great Job Ulliam. I may have stepped down as Principality deputy Herald Voice and Court (Yes you guessed it the ofice is now open for new changes - go Silver Yale), that said my foice will not go silent just given a rest. I like to help out in all aspects of Heraldry, but I excel with my voice. YIS Duncan --- Quentin Martel wrote: > > Thank you so much for doing so, Master Uilliam! > > - Quentin Silver Yale > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Uilliam > mac > Ail?ne mhic Seamuis > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:17 PM > To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message > > Good my lords and ladies, welcome to the first step in the new > College of Heralds of Tir Righ! As we move to consolidate our > identity as Tir Righ, the College will be ramping up the activity > level. If you are interested in consulting, voice heraldry, Court heraldry, administration & process, > submissions, whatever it may be, please let Quentin Silver Yale know! > > Why did the list move? Because we feel that as a principality we > should > increase our sense of self as the Principality of Tir Righ, and > hosting our > mailing list - the first one on the server, by the way - is a small > step > toward that goal. Some may think it picayune, but a sense of identity > can be > triggered by what may seem to be small things. > > Anyway, please feel free to jump in here and offer help, ask > questions, post > heraldic knowledge and lore and anything else. As soon as we can, > we'll be > getting a subscription link on the Tir Righ website so others can > come and > pile in. > > Yours aye, > Uilliam > Field & Town Crier Deputy > Tir Righ Heralds List Admin > Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief > -- > "Take sides! Always take sides! You may sometimes be wrong - but the > man who > refuses to take sides must *always* be wrong! Heaven save us from > poltroons > who fear to make a choice!" R.A. Heinlein, "Double Star" > -- > Main homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/fog.locker/ > SCA homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/uilliam/ > LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jackytar/ > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: > 5/28/2007 > 11:40 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: > 5/28/2007 > 11:40 AM > > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From mhood at shaw.ca Tue May 29 15:56:34 2007 From: mhood at shaw.ca (mark hood) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:56:34 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message In-Reply-To: References: <465B8D0F.5050002@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <012e01c7a244$9b23f7d0$d16be770$@ca> Here here! Very well done. Not-the-Baron Uilliam -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Quentin Martel Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:32 AM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message Thank you so much for doing so, Master Uilliam! - Quentin Silver Yale -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Uilliam mac Ail?ne mhic Seamuis Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:17 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message Good my lords and ladies, welcome to the first step in the new College of Heralds of Tir Righ! As we move to consolidate our identity as Tir Righ, the College will be ramping up the activity level. If you are interested in consulting, voice heraldry, Court heraldry, administration & process, submissions, whatever it may be, please let Quentin Silver Yale know! Why did the list move? Because we feel that as a principality we should increase our sense of self as the Principality of Tir Righ, and hosting our mailing list - the first one on the server, by the way - is a small step toward that goal. Some may think it picayune, but a sense of identity can be triggered by what may seem to be small things. Anyway, please feel free to jump in here and offer help, ask questions, post heraldic knowledge and lore and anything else. As soon as we can, we'll be getting a subscription link on the Tir Righ website so others can come and pile in. Yours aye, Uilliam Field & Town Crier Deputy Tir Righ Heralds List Admin Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief -- "Take sides! Always take sides! You may sometimes be wrong - but the man who refuses to take sides must *always* be wrong! Heaven save us from poltroons who fear to make a choice!" R.A. Heinlein, "Double Star" -- Main homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/fog.locker/ SCA homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/uilliam/ LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jackytar/ _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org From tierna.britt at gmail.com Tue May 29 08:32:36 2007 From: tierna.britt at gmail.com (Britt) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:32:36 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] [antir-heralds] Style / Conflict check requested In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <232740310705290832t4ec7fe12ua00607c5eef81205@mail.gmail.com> > Greetings unto the college; Well, hello, Anthony. Long time, no see. :) > Per pale azure and argent, a chevron and overall an eagle displayed counterchanged and in chief a mullet of five points counterchanged. Owen got this one for you. You cannot counterchange a complex charge over an ordinary. And it's excessively counterchanged as well. If you can talk him into 'Per pale azure and argent, an eagle between three mullets counterchanged' it's clear, slotting into one of the few places one can still get an eagle. He'd need three secondaries, though, because one's taken. > The second one which I *know* meets the style guidelines is: > Gules vetu ploye argent, on a cross recercely gules, a rose argent, slipped and leaved vert. That's a cross moline and that rose isn't slipped. And there's no gules on the field and it's blazoned incorrectly. As per Owen: Argent vetu ploye, a cross moline gules and overall a rose argent barbed vert, seeded Or. > This second one was done up for the lady in question by a herald in Cour de Val, but as I am this couple's > first contact in the SCA (and they are now my Wards), they came to me for assistance. Good thing they did. Owen has it half right, by the way. It'll work with a thicker cross and the rose entirely upon it. Shame on you for not taking one look and realizing there's an argent rose lying partially on an argent field! :) The only way that rose can be overall is if it's one of the colors - Or doesn't have good contracts with the field, either. RfS VIII.2.b.i. The field must have good contrast with every charge placed directly on it and with charges placed overall. Fatten up that cross, put the rose entirely on it. I'm doing a preliminary check for the potential redesign making the rose a tertiary charge: Argent vetu ploye on a cross moline gules a rose argent barbed vert, seeded Or. Kay Gwenhwyfar of Locksley - January of 1973: Or, centered upon a Celtic cross patty gules, a rose barbed and seeded argent. One CD changing the field by X.4.a.i. One CD for changing the type of cross by X.4.e. Clear S?oras of An Alltan - November of 1979 (via the West): Per bend azure and argent, a cross moline gules, overall a claymore bendwise proper. One CD changing the field by X.4.a.i. One CD for removing the overall charge by X.4.c. One CD for adding a tertiary by X.4.i. Clear Petros Monomachos - November of 1998 (via Drachenwald): Per saltire argent and sable, a cross doubly pommeled gules. One CD changing the field by X.4.a.i. One CD for adding a tertiary by X.4.i. Nothing for type of cross: [a cross doubly pommeled elongated palewise vs a cross moline] [There is] nothing for the difference between the two crosses. (Petros Monomachos, 2/97 p. 22) Clear Ian Nudd MacPherson - December of 1989 (via Caid): Argent, within a cross moline disjoint purpure, a thistle proper. One CD for changing the field by X.4.a.i. One CD for changing the tincture of the cross by X.4.d. One CD for changing the type+tincture of the tertiary by X.4.j.i. No need to get into type issues on the cross. Clear But now we have a problem. [Argent v??tu ploy?(c) quarterly sable and gules, a cat passant guardant sable] This .... conflicts with Amber Lang, Vert, on a lozenge argent, a cat sejant guardant sable. When comparing armory using a v??tu field with armory using a lozenge, the comparison must be made in two ways: as if both pieces of armory used a v??tu field, and as if both pieces of armory used a lozenge. If we consider Isabel's armory as the equivalent blazon Quarterly sable and gules, on a lozenge ploy?(c) througout argent a cat passant guardant sable, there is one CD from Amber's armory for changing the field, but no difference by RfS X.4.j for changing only the posture of the tertiary charge. There is no difference between a lozenge and a lozenge ploy?(c), nor is there difference between a lozenge and a lozenge throughout. [Isabel Margarita de Sotomayor y P?(c)rez de Gerena, 11/02, R-Trimaris] So charged argent lozenges on azure fields are an issue. A lozenge qualifies for X.4.j.ii. so change of type only of tertiary (if this is a lozenge, the cross is the tertiary) is worth a CD. Werenher von Ingolstadt - January of 1995 (via Atlantia): Azure, on a lozenge argent, a bear statant erect sable. One CD by X.4.j.i. for changing type+tincture of the tertiary. Nothing for the rose, as it's relegated to quaternary status in this blazon interpretation. Conflict. There's really no way around this, not with the vetu field. Nothing you do in the argent part will add any differences, and you can't charge the vetu. I checked gules fields and found another potential conflict. Sorry about that. - Teceangl From cmhart at shaw.ca Tue May 29 19:57:20 2007 From: cmhart at shaw.ca (colin hart) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:57:20 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601c7a266$3d92c020$6601a8c0@MyToshiba> If my dulcet tones can be of Service at any event I am able to make, you will not have to ask, I will be there helping! Colin Mackay of Balmaghie Semi Pro Loud Mouth Extraoridaire! -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org Sent: May 28, 2007 11:33 AM To: cmhart at shaw.ca Subject: Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list Greetings from the College of Heralds of Tir Righ! The College email list is in the process of moving from the antir.sca.org server to the tirrigh.org server, so you have been automatically subscribed to the new list. The old list on antir.sca.org will be shut down in the next two or three days. Please continue to make your contributions to the Tir Righ College of Heralds list in its new venue! Quentin Silver Yale Uilliam (list admin)Welcome to the Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org mailing list! Thank you for joining the Tir Righ College of Heralds e-mail discussion list. To post to this list, send your email to: General information about the mailing list is at: http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/options/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org/cmh art%40shaw.ca You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: Collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: vewaotac Normally, Mailman will remind you of your tirrigh.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. From quentin at shittimwoode.org Mon May 28 22:45:39 2007 From: quentin at shittimwoode.org (Quentin Martel) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 22:45:39 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! In-Reply-To: <465BB6F4.200@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Isn't it great? :) When we moved to the Principality domain, the obvious choice for the list was HYPERLINK "mailto:heralds at tirrigh.org"heralds at tirrigh.org, but that would be really confusing with my address, HYPERLINK "mailto:herald at tirrigh.org"herald at tirrigh.org. So we went for an address that emphasized the college. I think it works out rather nicely! Another cool idea that's coming to fruitition this week is the use of titles for the heralds of Tir Righ, specifically giving titles to the positions of Silver Yale's staff. One of the neat haraldic tricks that we get to use for the titles of our heralds is that any name that we've passed for Principality awards are automatically available for use as a heraldic title. So far, we have three: the Hafoc, Red Flame, and Silver Pillar. More are on the way, but that's another work item on the books for the college. So I sat down with many of our heralds this weekend and really thought about what award connected best with what position in the college. Red Flame, our persona development award, fit very well with the consulting herald. After all, passing a name and device is a tremendous part of developing one's persona. Our consulting herald, Patrika Theocharista quite agreed and thus I named her position the Red Flame Herald. Hafoc fit far, far too well for the contingency deputy. That choice was clear to both me and Uilliam. Thus Uilliam mac Fearchair is now Uilliam Hafoc. The Silver Pillar is our service award which honestly fits for all of our heraldic positions. As the size of a Principality or Kingdom goes up, however, there are clearly two positions that become tremendously huge: submissions and the order of precedence. Red Flame fits well for submissions as outlined above and so I felt that Silver Pillar would go to the OP deputy. I will admit that my personal background in the An Tir College of Heralds as Dexter Gauntlet probably made me lean that way. This worked for Yolande as well and she is now Yolande Silver Pillar. We have two staff positions without titles: our Field and Town Crier herald, Master Uilliam, and our Court Herald, which is currently vacant since the Coronet chose me to be Their retinue herald. Master Uilliam is working on the name for his position. I'm sure he'd appriciate input if anyone would like to give some. And I know that I'd appriciate input into ideas for the title of our Court Herald. Note that the intent of these titles is to attach a title to a given position. I would love to see a time 5 years from now where people around Tir Righ hear the Silver Pillar Herald and automatically think about the OP! - Quentin Silver Yale _____ From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:16 PM To: mark hood Cc: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! Oh. Funny, though 'cause I received your email before I received the welcome email from Baron Uilliam. Stupid Shaw service provider. Receiving emails out of order is really beginning to get frustrating . . . . Trying to get her silly on, Y mark hood wrote: Oh not much. The name of the group changed, and I was getting all excited. In a silly mood, that?s all. Uilliam From: HYPERLINK "mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org"collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrig h.org [HYPERLINK "mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org"mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces @tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:40 PM To: HYPERLINK "mailto:collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org"collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! What's a cool idea? Have I missed something? Confused, Maitresse Yolande Chastellain Silver Pillar Herald, Tir Righ (aka OP) mark hood wrote: See above. Uilliam mac Fearchair mhic Gillie Aindrias, GdS, LC, MI Havoc Herald, Tir Righ Baronial Gamesmaster, Lions Gate - per chevron argent and azure, two chessrooks and a winged wolf statant counterchanged - _____ _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list HYPERLINK "mailto:Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org"Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org HYPERLINK "http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org"http: //mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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I may have stepped down as Principality deputy Herald Voice and Court (Yes you guessed it the ofice is now open for new changes - go Silver Yale), that said my foice will not go silent just given a rest. I like to help out in all aspects of Heraldry, but I excel with my voice. YIS Duncan --- Quentin Martel wrote: > > Thank you so much for doing so, Master Uilliam! > > - Quentin Silver Yale > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Uilliam mac > Ail?ne mhic Seamuis > Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 7:17 PM > To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] WELCOME Message > > Good my lords and ladies, welcome to the first step in the new College > of Heralds of Tir Righ! As we move to consolidate our identity as Tir > Righ, the College will be ramping up the activity level. If you are > interested in consulting, voice heraldry, Court heraldry, administration & process, > submissions, whatever it may be, please let Quentin Silver Yale know! > > Why did the list move? Because we feel that as a principality we > should increase our sense of self as the Principality of Tir Righ, and > hosting our mailing list - the first one on the server, by the way - > is a small step toward that goal. Some may think it picayune, but a > sense of identity can be triggered by what may seem to be small > things. > > Anyway, please feel free to jump in here and offer help, ask > questions, post heraldic knowledge and lore and anything else. As soon > as we can, we'll be getting a subscription link on the Tir Righ > website so others can come and pile in. > > Yours aye, > Uilliam > Field & Town Crier Deputy > Tir Righ Heralds List Admin > Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief > -- > "Take sides! Always take sides! You may sometimes be wrong - but the > man who refuses to take sides must *always* be wrong! Heaven save us > from poltroons who fear to make a choice!" R.A. Heinlein, "Double > Star" > -- > Main homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/fog.locker/ > SCA homepage: http://members.shaw.ca/uilliam/ > LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/jackytar/ > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: > 5/28/2007 > 11:40 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: > 5/28/2007 > 11:40 AM > > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM From quentin at shittimwoode.org Tue May 29 21:36:28 2007 From: quentin at shittimwoode.org (Quentin Martel) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 21:36:28 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list In-Reply-To: <000601c7a266$3d92c020$6601a8c0@MyToshiba> Message-ID: Thank you so much! Are you listed on our heraldic roster, Colin? - Quentin -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of colin hart Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:57 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list If my dulcet tones can be of Service at any event I am able to make, you will not have to ask, I will be there helping! Colin Mackay of Balmaghie Semi Pro Loud Mouth Extraoridaire! -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org Sent: May 28, 2007 11:33 AM To: cmhart at shaw.ca Subject: Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list Greetings from the College of Heralds of Tir Righ! The College email list is in the process of moving from the antir.sca.org server to the tirrigh.org server, so you have been automatically subscribed to the new list. The old list on antir.sca.org will be shut down in the next two or three days. Please continue to make your contributions to the Tir Righ College of Heralds list in its new venue! Quentin Silver Yale Uilliam (list admin)Welcome to the Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org mailing list! Thank you for joining the Tir Righ College of Heralds e-mail discussion list. To post to this list, send your email to: General information about the mailing list is at: http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/options/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org/cmh art%40shaw.ca You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: Collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: vewaotac Normally, Mailman will remind you of your tirrigh.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007 1:01 PM From mhood at shaw.ca Wed May 30 06:25:55 2007 From: mhood at shaw.ca (mark hood) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 06:25:55 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! In-Reply-To: References: <465BB6F4.200@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <014401c7a2be$0d803360$28809a20$@ca> Weeellllll... coincidentally, we do have two awards left who's current name didn't/won't pass; the Etoile d'Argent (A&S) and the Glowing Ember (Youth). Perhaps as heralds of the Principality we can . steer towards new award names that we'd like to use as titles. So then, what's left is coming up with a name that fits both the Principality A&S award *AND* the Field/Town Crier Dep. J I understand that's not how we're supposed to do it, but you KNOW it's going to be in the back of our minds as we're working on the award names anyway. Uilliam Hafoc From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Quentin Martel Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:46 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! Isn't it great? :) When we moved to the Principality domain, the obvious choice for the list was heralds at tirrigh.org, but that would be really confusing with my address, herald at tirrigh.org. So we went for an address that emphasized the college. I think it works out rather nicely! Another cool idea that's coming to fruitition this week is the use of titles for the heralds of Tir Righ, specifically giving titles to the positions of Silver Yale's staff. One of the neat haraldic tricks that we get to use for the titles of our heralds is that any name that we've passed for Principality awards are automatically available for use as a heraldic title. So far, we have three: the Hafoc, Red Flame, and Silver Pillar. More are on the way, but that's another work item on the books for the college. So I sat down with many of our heralds this weekend and really thought about what award connected best with what position in the college. Red Flame, our persona development award, fit very well with the consulting herald. After all, passing a name and device is a tremendous part of developing one's persona. Our consulting herald, Patrika Theocharista quite agreed and thus I named her position the Red Flame Herald. Hafoc fit far, far too well for the contingency deputy. That choice was clear to both me and Uilliam. Thus Uilliam mac Fearchair is now Uilliam Hafoc. The Silver Pillar is our service award which honestly fits for all of our heraldic positions. As the size of a Principality or Kingdom goes up, however, there are clearly two positions that become tremendously huge: submissions and the order of precedence. Red Flame fits well for submissions as outlined above and so I felt that Silver Pillar would go to the OP deputy. I will admit that my personal background in the An Tir College of Heralds as Dexter Gauntlet probably made me lean that way. This worked for Yolande as well and she is now Yolande Silver Pillar. We have two staff positions without titles: our Field and Town Crier herald, Master Uilliam, and our Court Herald, which is currently vacant since the Coronet chose me to be Their retinue herald. Master Uilliam is working on the name for his position. I'm sure he'd appriciate input if anyone would like to give some. And I know that I'd appriciate input into ideas for the title of our Court Herald. Note that the intent of these titles is to attach a title to a given position. I would love to see a time 5 years from now where people around Tir Righ hear the Silver Pillar Herald and automatically think about the OP! - Quentin Silver Yale _____ From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:16 PM To: mark hood Cc: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! Oh. Funny, though 'cause I received your email before I received the welcome email from Baron Uilliam. Stupid Shaw service provider. Receiving emails out of order is really beginning to get frustrating . . . . Trying to get her silly on, Y mark hood wrote: Oh not much. The name of the group changed, and I was getting all excited. In a silly mood, that's all. Uilliam From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:40 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! What's a cool idea? Have I missed something? Confused, Maitresse Yolande Chastellain Silver Pillar Herald, Tir Righ (aka OP) mark hood wrote: See above. Uilliam mac Fearchair mhic Gillie Aindrias, GdS, LC, MI Havoc Herald, Tir Righ Baronial Gamesmaster, Lions Gate - per chevron argent and azure, two chessrooks and a winged wolf statant counterchanged - _____ _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM _____ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/819 - Release Date: 5/26/2007 10:47 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.1/822 - Release Date: 5/28/2007 11:40 AM -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmhart at shaw.ca Wed May 30 09:05:22 2007 From: cmhart at shaw.ca (Colin Hart) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 09:05:22 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list In-Reply-To: References: <000601c7a266$3d92c020$6601a8c0@MyToshiba> Message-ID: I don't know if I am or not! My mundane schedule oft precludes me from getting to all the Events I want to. So I am fairly inactive and there may even be some about Tir Righ who have never heard (or of!) me! ----- Original Message ----- From: Quentin Martel Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:36 pm Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list > > Thank you so much! > > Are you listed on our heraldic roster, Colin? > > - Quentin > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of colin hart > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:57 PM > To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" > mailinglist > > If my dulcet tones can be of Service at any event I am able to > make, you > will not have to ask, I will be there helping! > Colin Mackay of Balmaghie > Semi Pro Loud Mouth Extraoridaire! > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of > collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org > Sent: May 28, 2007 11:33 AM > To: cmhart at shaw.ca > Subject: Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list > > Greetings from the College of Heralds of Tir Righ! The College > email list is > in the process of moving from the antir.sca.org server to the > tirrigh.orgserver, so you have been automatically subscribed to > the new list. The old > list on antir.sca.org will be shut down in the next two or three days. > > Please continue to make your contributions to the Tir Righ College of > Heralds list in its new venue! > > Quentin Silver Yale > Uilliam (list admin)Welcome to the Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > mailinglist! Thank you for joining the Tir Righ College of Heralds > e-mail > discussion list. > > To post to this list, send your email to: > > > General information about the mailing list is at: > > > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch > to or > from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your > subscription page > at: > > > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/options/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org/cmh > art%40shaw.ca > > > You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: > > Collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org > > with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the > quotes), and > you will get back a message with instructions. > > You must know your password to change your options (including > changing the > password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: > > vewaotac > > Normally, Mailman will remind you of your tirrigh.org mailing list > passwordsonce every month, although you can disable this if you > prefer. This > reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or > change your > account options. There is also a button on your options page that > willemail your current password to you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: > 5/29/20071:01 PM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: > 5/29/20071:01 PM > > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > From cocinera at shaw.ca Wed May 30 12:39:28 2007 From: cocinera at shaw.ca (Rosemary Underhill) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 12:39:28 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello All: As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for next February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what classes or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look forward to hearing from you. Thanks heaps, Theocharista Red Flame, Consulting Herald, Tir Righ Symposium autocrat. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM From damozel at shaw.ca Wed May 30 14:54:14 2007 From: damozel at shaw.ca (Laura Offley) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 14:54:14 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <465DF286.7030506@shaw.ca> A topic near and dear to my heart that doesn't always get taught is precedence and protocol. Just *how* do you organize the processional at Invocation of Coronet Lists? How does one go about organizing the order of toasts at a banquet? And what do I say to introduce my best friend to the King? Did you know that all of this can be found online? (just ask me if you want to know) Ooops - did I just offer to teach??????? Yolande Rosemary Underhill wrote: > Hello All: > > As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for next > February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what classes > or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What > classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? > > Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look > forward to hearing from you. > > Thanks heaps, > > Theocharista Red Flame, > Consulting Herald, Tir Righ > Symposium autocrat. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 > 1:01 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > > From cocinera at shaw.ca Wed May 30 15:27:47 2007 From: cocinera at shaw.ca (Rosemary Underhill) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 15:27:47 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: <465DF286.7030506@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Hi Yolande: It does sorta sound like volunteering to me! :) Yay Theocharista -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org]On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: May 30, 2007 2:54 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium A topic near and dear to my heart that doesn't always get taught is precedence and protocol. Just *how* do you organize the processional at Invocation of Coronet Lists? How does one go about organizing the order of toasts at a banquet? And what do I say to introduce my best friend to the King? Did you know that all of this can be found online? (just ask me if you want to know) Ooops - did I just offer to teach??????? Yolande Rosemary Underhill wrote: > Hello All: > > As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for next > February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what classes > or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What > classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? > > Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look > forward to hearing from you. > > Thanks heaps, > > Theocharista Red Flame, > Consulting Herald, Tir Righ > Symposium autocrat. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 > 1:01 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > > _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM From mhood at shaw.ca Thu May 31 06:06:53 2007 From: mhood at shaw.ca (mark hood) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 06:06:53 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: References: <465DF286.7030506@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <016401c7a384$8f60ba00$ae222e00$@ca> "Insufficient Reluctance" Uilliam -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Rosemary Underhill Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:28 PM To: Laura Offley; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium Hi Yolande: It does sorta sound like volunteering to me! :) Yay Theocharista -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org]On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: May 30, 2007 2:54 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium A topic near and dear to my heart that doesn't always get taught is precedence and protocol. Just *how* do you organize the processional at Invocation of Coronet Lists? How does one go about organizing the order of toasts at a banquet? And what do I say to introduce my best friend to the King? Did you know that all of this can be found online? (just ask me if you want to know) Ooops - did I just offer to teach??????? Yolande Rosemary Underhill wrote: > Hello All: > > As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for next > February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what classes > or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What > classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? > > Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look > forward to hearing from you. > > Thanks heaps, > > Theocharista Red Flame, > Consulting Herald, Tir Righ > Symposium autocrat. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 > 1:01 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > > _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org From damozel at shaw.ca Thu May 31 10:41:47 2007 From: damozel at shaw.ca (Laura Offley) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:41:47 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: <016401c7a384$8f60ba00$ae222e00$@ca> References: <465DF286.7030506@shaw.ca> <016401c7a384$8f60ba00$ae222e00$@ca> Message-ID: <465F08DB.7000506@shaw.ca> Ok, bend my arm backwards. I'll teach. Someone has just gotta remind me and give me time to write a handout . . . Uncle! Uncle! ;-) Yolande mark hood wrote: > "Insufficient Reluctance" > > Uilliam > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Rosemary > Underhill > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 3:28 PM > To: Laura Offley; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium > > Hi Yolande: > > It does sorta sound like volunteering to me! :) > > Yay > > Theocharista > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org]On Behalf Of Laura Offley > Sent: May 30, 2007 2:54 PM > To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium > > > A topic near and dear to my heart that doesn't always get taught is > precedence and protocol. > > Just *how* do you organize the processional at Invocation of Coronet > Lists? How does one go about organizing the order of toasts at a > banquet? And what do I say to introduce my best friend to the King? Did > you know that all of this can be found online? (just ask me if you want > to know) > > Ooops - did I just offer to teach??????? > > Yolande > > Rosemary Underhill wrote: > >> Hello All: >> >> As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for >> > next > >> February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what >> > classes > >> or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What >> classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? >> >> Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look >> forward to hearing from you. >> >> Thanks heaps, >> >> Theocharista Red Flame, >> Consulting Herald, Tir Righ >> Symposium autocrat. >> >> No virus found in this outgoing message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 >> 1:01 PM >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Collegeofheralds mailing list >> Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org >> http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org >> >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 > 1:01 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 > 1:01 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jharcus at prcn.org Thu May 31 15:41:19 2007 From: jharcus at prcn.org (jharcus at prcn.org) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:41:19 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium Message-ID: <91cce0650531433e9e3ff734626d0d88.jharcus@prcn.org> I believe we are also looking at holding scribal classes in conjunction with the heraldic symposium so please submit suggestions for these as well. In service Alicia le Wilfulle Tir Righ Principality Scribe >------- Original Message ------- >From : Rosemary Underhill[mailto:cocinera at shaw.ca] >Sent : 5/30/2007 12:39:28 PM >To : collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium > > Hello All: As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for next February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what classes or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look forward to hearing from you. Thanks heaps, Theocharista Red Flame, Consulting Herald, Tir Righ Symposium autocrat. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org From cocinera at shaw.ca Thu May 31 16:05:36 2007 From: cocinera at shaw.ca (Rosemary Underhill) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:05:36 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: <91cce0650531433e9e3ff734626d0d88.jharcus@prcn.org> Message-ID: Yes indeed. I so much associate heraldry and scribal that I forget to mention scribal separately. Theocharista Red Flame -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org]On Behalf Of jharcus at prcn.org Sent: May 31, 2007 3:41 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium I believe we are also looking at holding scribal classes in conjunction with the heraldic symposium so please submit suggestions for these as well. In service Alicia le Wilfulle Tir Righ Principality Scribe >------- Original Message ------- >From : Rosemary Underhill[mailto:cocinera at shaw.ca] >Sent : 5/30/2007 12:39:28 PM >To : collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium > > Hello All: As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for next February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what classes or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look forward to hearing from you. Thanks heaps, Theocharista Red Flame, Consulting Herald, Tir Righ Symposium autocrat. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 30/05/2007 3:03 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 30/05/2007 3:03 PM From quentin at shittimwoode.org Thu May 31 21:48:34 2007 From: quentin at shittimwoode.org (Quentin Martel) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:48:34 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You're on the roster as of now! Can you send me a picture of yourself and/or a picture of your arms at some point? - QSY -----Original Message----- From: Colin Hart [mailto:cmhart at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 9:05 AM To: Quentin Martel Cc: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list I don't know if I am or not! My mundane schedule oft precludes me from getting to all the Events I want to. So I am fairly inactive and there may even be some about Tir Righ who have never heard (or of!) me! ----- Original Message ----- From: Quentin Martel Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:36 pm Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list > > Thank you so much! > > Are you listed on our heraldic roster, Colin? > > - Quentin > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of colin hart > Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 7:57 PM > To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" > mailinglist > > If my dulcet tones can be of Service at any event I am able to make, > you will not have to ask, I will be there helping! > Colin Mackay of Balmaghie > Semi Pro Loud Mouth Extraoridaire! > > -----Original Message----- > From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org > [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of > collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org > Sent: May 28, 2007 11:33 AM > To: cmhart at shaw.ca > Subject: Welcome to the "Collegeofheralds" mailing list > > Greetings from the College of Heralds of Tir Righ! 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Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM From quentin at shittimwoode.org Thu May 31 21:49:34 2007 From: quentin at shittimwoode.org (Quentin Martel) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:49:34 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thank you for autocratting this event, Theocharista! Sign me up for teaching a class on the OP and on serving as retinue herald. Thanks! - Quentin Silver Yale -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Rosemary Underhill Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:39 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium Hello All: As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for next February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know what classes or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see included? What classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look forward to hearing from you. Thanks heaps, Theocharista Red Flame, Consulting Herald, Tir Righ Symposium autocrat. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM From quentin at shittimwoode.org Thu May 31 21:50:08 2007 From: quentin at shittimwoode.org (Quentin Martel) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:50:08 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium In-Reply-To: <465DF286.7030506@shaw.ca> Message-ID: "Ooops - did I just offer to teach???????" Yes. :) - QSY -----Original Message----- From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:54 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] A Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium A topic near and dear to my heart that doesn't always get taught is precedence and protocol. Just *how* do you organize the processional at Invocation of Coronet Lists? How does one go about organizing the order of toasts at a banquet? And what do I say to introduce my best friend to the King? Did you know that all of this can be found online? (just ask me if you want to know) Ooops - did I just offer to teach??????? Yolande Rosemary Underhill wrote: > Hello All: > > As you may know, Tir Righ is planning its first Heraldic Symposium for > next February. I know its a little early, but I would like to know > what classes or subjects the heralds of Tir Righ would like to see > included? What classes do you think we need most to help our newer heralds? > > Your input will help to make this a good symposium and I really look > forward to hearing from you. > > Thanks heaps, > > Theocharista Red Flame, > Consulting Herald, Tir Righ > Symposium autocrat. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: > 29/05/2007 > 1:01 PM > > > _______________________________________________ > Collegeofheralds mailing list > Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > > > _______________________________________________ Collegeofheralds mailing list Collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 5/30/2007 3:03 PM From quentin at shittimwoode.org Thu May 31 22:05:09 2007 From: quentin at shittimwoode.org (Quentin Martel) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 22:05:09 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! In-Reply-To: <014401c7a2be$0d803360$28809a20$@ca> Message-ID: I, for one, wouldn't mind recognizing the double duty of the award name. Theocharista, what are the Etoile names we've been working on? - QSY _____ From: mark hood [mailto:mhood at shaw.ca] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:26 AM To: 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! Weeellllll?.. coincidentally, we do have two awards left who?s current name didn?t/won?t pass; the Etoile d?Argent (A&S) and the Glowing Ember (Youth). Perhaps as heralds of the Principality we can ? steer towards new award names that we?d like to use as titles. So then, what?s left is coming up with a name that fits both the Principality A&S award *AND* the Field/Town Crier Dep. J I understand that?s not how we?re supposed to do it, but you KNOW it?s going to be in the back of our minds as we?re working on the award names anyway? Uilliam Hafoc From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Quentin Martel Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:46 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! Isn't it great? :) When we moved to the Principality domain, the obvious choice for the list was HYPERLINK "mailto:heralds at tirrigh.org"heralds at tirrigh.org, but that would be really confusing with my address, HYPERLINK "mailto:herald at tirrigh.org"herald at tirrigh.org. So we went for an address that emphasized the college. I think it works out rather nicely! Another cool idea that's coming to fruitition this week is the use of titles for the heralds of Tir Righ, specifically giving titles to the positions of Silver Yale's staff. One of the neat haraldic tricks that we get to use for the titles of our heralds is that any name that we've passed for Principality awards are automatically available for use as a heraldic title. So far, we have three: the Hafoc, Red Flame, and Silver Pillar. More are on the way, but that's another work item on the books for the college. So I sat down with many of our heralds this weekend and really thought about what award connected best with what position in the college. Red Flame, our persona development award, fit very well with the consulting herald. After all, passing a name and device is a tremendous part of developing one's persona. Our consulting herald, Patrika Theocharista quite agreed and thus I named her position the Red Flame Herald. Hafoc fit far, far too well for the contingency deputy. That choice was clear to both me and Uilliam. Thus Uilliam mac Fearchair is now Uilliam Hafoc. The Silver Pillar is our service award which honestly fits for all of our heraldic positions. As the size of a Principality or Kingdom goes up, however, there are clearly two positions that become tremendously huge: submissions and the order of precedence. Red Flame fits well for submissions as outlined above and so I felt that Silver Pillar would go to the OP deputy. I will admit that my personal background in the An Tir College of Heralds as Dexter Gauntlet probably made me lean that way. This worked for Yolande as well and she is now Yolande Silver Pillar. We have two staff positions without titles: our Field and Town Crier herald, Master Uilliam, and our Court Herald, which is currently vacant since the Coronet chose me to be Their retinue herald. Master Uilliam is working on the name for his position. I'm sure he'd appriciate input if anyone would like to give some. And I know that I'd appriciate input into ideas for the title of our Court Herald. Note that the intent of these titles is to attach a title to a given position. I would love to see a time 5 years from now where people around Tir Righ hear the Silver Pillar Herald and automatically think about the OP! - Quentin Silver Yale _____ From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 10:16 PM To: mark hood Cc: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! Oh. Funny, though 'cause I received your email before I received the welcome email from Baron Uilliam. Stupid Shaw service provider. Receiving emails out of order is really beginning to get frustrating . . . . Trying to get her silly on, Y mark hood wrote: Oh not much. The name of the group changed, and I was getting all excited. In a silly mood, that?s all. Uilliam From: HYPERLINK "mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org"collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrig h.org [HYPERLINK "mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org"mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces @tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Laura Offley Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 8:40 PM To: HYPERLINK "mailto:collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org"collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea! What's a cool idea? Have I missed something? Confused, Maitresse Yolande Chastellain Silver Pillar Herald, Tir Righ (aka OP) mark hood wrote: See above. 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