From Caitrina at shaw.ca  Mon Jan  3 12:55:46 2011
From: Caitrina at shaw.ca (Caitrina Silver Yale)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:55:46 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] No Tir Righ Internal Letter of Intent for January
Message-ID: <197D4BEFE704435680A22A00ED83AE52@carncats.ca>

Greetings!

 

It is with disappointment that I have to advise everyone that there will be
no Tir Righ Internal Letter of Intent for January.  This is the second month
since we were given the go ahead three months ago to create our own for our
Populace that there is no letter to publish.  This is due to no submissions
being received.  This is setting back our schedule for having our submission
Herald trained as I have nothing in which to train her with.  If all of this
is news to anyone, please see our website for more info.

 

http://www.tirrigh.org/heralds/

 

Please also note that we are short Heralds for needed offices.  I know in
the past, many of the Heralds of Tir Righ have taken offices outside of the
College as there wasn't much going on Heraldically at the Principality
level.  Many of you are the Seneschals, Exchequers, etc, of your local
branches or are holding offices at the Kingdom level.  I'm not saying your
branches don't need you and the Kingdom doesn't need you but your College
needs you too!  Please if you know of anyone who would be interested in the
following positions presently open or soon to be open, let me know..

 

Red Flame Herald (Consulting Deputy)

Lynx Herald (Website Deputy)

 

We also have the Silver Sparkes Herald (Special Projects Deputy) that is
presently unassigned.  I will be looking into the necessity of this office
and if the title couldn't be better used elsewhere.

 

I am planning a meeting for the College to be held at the upcoming Tir Righ
February Investiture.  Everyone is welcome, you don't have to be a Herald to
attend.  Last time we had bacon maple fudge. I'll have to see what we can
come up with for this meeting <evil grin>.

 

In Service,

 

Caitrina Silver Yale

 

"Quarterly gules and sable, a winged fox sejant argent."

 

 

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From Caitrina at shaw.ca  Sun Jan 16 11:55:06 2011
From: Caitrina at shaw.ca (Caitrina Silver Yale)
Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:55:06 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] FW: [antir-heralds] 2nd Call - Consulting Library
	Inventory
Message-ID: <AD56AF8CD5E6483C83319733BBE7EBC4@carncats.ca>

Forwarding as promised.  For all Branch Heralds, please see below and if
responding to Brendan, please cc me as I'd like to see what the Principality
can do to help the Branches as well.  

On another note, for anyone on the fence about applying for Red Flame
Herald... just think of what it could mean for your beloved Branch to have
the Tir Righ Heraldic library close to home.  As the keeper of the library
you would not be restricted to only use the books at Principality events but
could use them at consulting tables at your local events as well.  We have
to books to help all.

In Service,
Caitrina Silver Yale

-----Original Message-----
From: antir-heralds-bounces at antir.sca.org
[mailto:antir-heralds-bounces at antir.sca.org] On Behalf Of Dan Sena
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 10:41 AM
To: An Tir Heralds
Subject: [antir-heralds] 2nd Call - Consulting Library Inventory

I put out a call for inventories of Branch consulting libraries, and got 
ONE branch to do so.  I KNOW other branches besides Aquaterra have 
libraries!  PLEASE work on getting me this information - I really would 
like to know what is where, and I would like to know what brancehs feel 
they need so we can coordinate helping them get those!

Brendan ?stel
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From Caitrina at shaw.ca  Sun Jan 30 10:08:24 2011
From: Caitrina at shaw.ca (Caitrina Silver Yale)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:08:24 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Name help - Sage as a first name - Sage McLeod of
	Canna
Message-ID: <4B9DACB13BED4BD98F311C1C20771F29@carncats.ca>

Greetings!

 

I have a lady who is wanting to submit the name Sage as a first name.  She
doesn't care about gender, authenticity, spelling, etc on the rest of the
name.  The full name she's looking for is Sage McLeod of Canna.  But she's
not finding any documentation for Sage.  The only thing I've found is it
being used more of a definition on a title "Mentor in spiritual and
philosophical topics who is renowned for profound wisdom."  But I'd rather
have more experienced name Heralds speak before I insert foot in mouth by
telling her using Sage as a first name is not plausible.

 

Regards,

Caitrina

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From terpsichores.child at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 10:24:31 2011
From: terpsichores.child at gmail.com (Jillian Bower)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:24:31 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] [antir-heralds] Name help - Sage as a first
	name - Sage McLeod of Canna
In-Reply-To: <4B9DACB13BED4BD98F311C1C20771F29@carncats.ca>
References: <4B9DACB13BED4BD98F311C1C20771F29@carncats.ca>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=FTXhnJ8_pyBdBU2pUmOYMP8Pom2bfYPPsUbwq@mail.gmail.com>

She can't have it with McLeod, but she can have "Saige":

http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welshWomen16/given.html

Welsh and Gaelic isn't a permissible combination.

Elizabeth Lions Blood

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Caitrina Silver Yale <Caitrina at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
>
>
> I have a lady who is wanting to submit the name Sage as a first name. ?She
> doesn't care about gender, authenticity, spelling, etc on the rest of the
> name. ?The full name she's looking for is Sage McLeod of Canna. ?But she's
> not finding any documentation for Sage. ?The only thing I've found is it
> being used more of a definition on a title "Mentor in spiritual and
> philosophical topics who is renowned for profound wisdom." ?But I'd rather
> have more experienced name Heralds speak before I insert foot in mouth by
> telling her using Sage as a first name is not plausible.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Caitrina
>
> _______________________________________________
> antir-heralds mailing list
> antir-heralds at antir.sca.org
> http://missives.antir.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/antir-heralds



From ladyrae966 at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 10:17:19 2011
From: ladyrae966 at gmail.com (Rae Sidlauskas)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 10:17:19 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] [antir-heralds] Name help - Sage as a first
	name - Sage McLeod of Canna
In-Reply-To: <4B9DACB13BED4BD98F311C1C20771F29@carncats.ca>
References: <4B9DACB13BED4BD98F311C1C20771F29@carncats.ca>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimx7NSq-r24GNCDM4KWjs2hX3q9XSiUowKj1Ffi@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I am inclined to agree with you that it's not a plausible
personal name - although check Withycombe just in case, you never know
what you'll find in there.

'la sage' is justifiable as an early 13th c. French byname, though.

(BTW, I would have checked Withycombe, but can't locate my copy...
AEstel, it didn't go home with you after 12th night, did it?)

Rhi

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Caitrina Silver Yale <Caitrina at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Greetings!
>
>
>
> I have a lady who is wanting to submit the name Sage as a first name. ?She
> doesn't care about gender, authenticity, spelling, etc on the rest of the
> name. ?The full name she's looking for is Sage McLeod of Canna. ?But she's
> not finding any documentation for Sage. ?The only thing I've found is it
> being used more of a definition on a title "Mentor in spiritual and
> philosophical topics who is renowned for profound wisdom." ?But I'd rather
> have more experienced name Heralds speak before I insert foot in mouth by
> telling her using Sage as a first name is not plausible.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Caitrina
>
> _______________________________________________
> antir-heralds mailing list
> antir-heralds at antir.sca.org
> http://missives.antir.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/antir-heralds
>



From terpsichores.child at gmail.com  Sun Jan 30 11:09:33 2011
From: terpsichores.child at gmail.com (Jillian Bower)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:09:33 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] [antir-heralds] Name help - Sage as a first
	name - Sage McLeod of Canna
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=FTXhnJ8_pyBdBU2pUmOYMP8Pom2bfYPPsUbwq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4B9DACB13BED4BD98F311C1C20771F29@carncats.ca>
	<AANLkTi=FTXhnJ8_pyBdBU2pUmOYMP8Pom2bfYPPsUbwq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=CemSyLk1SBRVS00bk0OtxXxVf-k1p=rzhKPDQ@mail.gmail.com>

Or, as has been pointed out to me, McLeod is actually Scots - and
Welsh and Scots *is* permissible with a SFPP.

I should have my coffee first before answering e-mail :)

Elizabeth

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Jillian Bower
<terpsichores.child at gmail.com> wrote:
> She can't have it with McLeod, but she can have "Saige":
>
> http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/welshWomen16/given.html
>
> Welsh and Gaelic isn't a permissible combination.
>
> Elizabeth Lions Blood
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Caitrina Silver Yale <Caitrina at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> Greetings!
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a lady who is wanting to submit the name Sage as a first name. ?She
>> doesn't care about gender, authenticity, spelling, etc on the rest of the
>> name. ?The full name she's looking for is Sage McLeod of Canna. ?But she's
>> not finding any documentation for Sage. ?The only thing I've found is it
>> being used more of a definition on a title "Mentor in spiritual and
>> philosophical topics who is renowned for profound wisdom." ?But I'd rather
>> have more experienced name Heralds speak before I insert foot in mouth by
>> telling her using Sage as a first name is not plausible.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Caitrina
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> antir-heralds mailing list
>> antir-heralds at antir.sca.org
>> http://missives.antir.sca.org/mailman/listinfo/antir-heralds



From kj2mill at telus.net  Mon Jan 31 09:19:31 2011
From: kj2mill at telus.net (Jennifer Miller)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 09:19:31 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?
Message-ID: <72F20CD1644D453EB9BFEBBAA3BC68AD@jennifer>

Greetings to my fellow heralds,

I was asked this the other day, and thought I would check with you....

Does a granted award or rank (i.e., aoa, goutte,  baroness etc) follow the persona, or the person?

Say "Gudrin" (the Norse persona) was granted an award of arms.  A couple of years later, the individual decides that Italian really would suit them better.

Do we just notify the OP lists of the name change?  What if it is an earned rank individual, such as a baron(ess), man at arms or Knight/Don?

Reasoning it through, we figured that the granted award or rank follows the person, but were not sure.

Thanks for your help.  

Alys Lakewood
Herald of Tir Bannog
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From cocinera at shaw.ca  Mon Jan 31 10:17:30 2011
From: cocinera at shaw.ca (Rosemary Underhill)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:17:30 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?
In-Reply-To: <72F20CD1644D453EB9BFEBBAA3BC68AD@jennifer>
References: <72F20CD1644D453EB9BFEBBAA3BC68AD@jennifer>
Message-ID: <0DB7AC4A09E844CE821D092F41165AB8@Hermione>

Hello all 

 

Awards go with the person.   Mine have gone through 3 persona changes so far
and I wouldn't bet that it won't be four  in the near future. 

 

Yours in heraldic service

Theocharista Doukaina (formerly Alberada du bois du Cygne and Riognach of
Ruantallan)

Reporting Deputy 

Tir Righ Heralds

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From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Miller
Sent: January 31, 2011 9:20 AM
To: Tir Righ Heralds'
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?

 

Greetings to my fellow heralds,

 

I was asked this the other day, and thought I would check with you....

 

Does a granted award or rank (i.e., aoa, goutte,  baroness etc) follow the
persona, or the person?

 

Say "Gudrin" (the Norse persona) was granted an award of arms.  A couple of
years later, the individual decides that Italian really would suit them
better.

 

Do we just notify the OP lists of the name change?  What if it is an earned
rank individual, such as a baron(ess), man at arms or Knight/Don?

 

Reasoning it through, we figured that the granted award or rank follows the
person, but were not sure.

 

Thanks for your help.  

 

Alys Lakewood

Herald of Tir Bannog

  _____  

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From kj2mill at telus.net  Mon Jan 31 11:32:34 2011
From: kj2mill at telus.net (Jennifer Miller)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:32:34 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?
References: <72F20CD1644D453EB9BFEBBAA3BC68AD@jennifer>
	<0DB7AC4A09E844CE821D092F41165AB8@Hermione>
Message-ID: <9F347B8DBB0D47C7A25A4721A1E87330@jennifer>

Thank you kindly for the information!!

Alys
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rosemary Underhill 
  To: 'Jennifer Miller' ; 'Tir Righ Heralds'' 
  Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 10:17 AM
  Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?


  Hello all 

   

  Awards go with the person.   Mine have gone through 3 persona changes so far and I wouldn't bet that it won't be four  in the near future. 

   

  Yours in heraldic service

  Theocharista Doukaina (formerly Alberada du bois du Cygne and Riognach of Ruantallan)

  Reporting Deputy 

  Tir Righ Heralds


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  From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Miller
  Sent: January 31, 2011 9:20 AM
  To: Tir Righ Heralds'
  Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?

   

  Greetings to my fellow heralds,

   

  I was asked this the other day, and thought I would check with you....

   

  Does a granted award or rank (i.e., aoa, goutte,  baroness etc) follow the persona, or the person?

   

  Say "Gudrin" (the Norse persona) was granted an award of arms.  A couple of years later, the individual decides that Italian really would suit them better.

   

  Do we just notify the OP lists of the name change?  What if it is an earned rank individual, such as a baron(ess), man at arms or Knight/Don?

   

  Reasoning it through, we figured that the granted award or rank follows the person, but were not sure.

   

  Thanks for your help.  

   

  Alys Lakewood

  Herald of Tir Bannog


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From rokyngham at shaw.ca  Mon Jan 31 19:15:57 2011
From: rokyngham at shaw.ca (John de Rokyngham)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:15:57 -0800
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?
In-Reply-To: <72F20CD1644D453EB9BFEBBAA3BC68AD@jennifer>
Message-ID: <c08cb9$bc8pad@pd6mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca>

I would agree with this approach.
 
John de Rokyngham
Herald of the Shire of Cragmere

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From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Jennifer Miller
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 9:20 AM
To: Tir Righ Heralds'
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Does OP follow you with a name change?


Greetings to my fellow heralds,
 
I was asked this the other day, and thought I would check with you....
 
Does a granted award or rank (i.e., aoa, goutte,  baroness etc) follow the
persona, or the person?
 
Say "Gudrin" (the Norse persona) was granted an award of arms.  A couple of
years later, the individual decides that Italian really would suit them
better.
 
Do we just notify the OP lists of the name change?  What if it is an earned
rank individual, such as a baron(ess), man at arms or Knight/Don?
 
Reasoning it through, we figured that the granted award or rank follows the
person, but were not sure.
 
Thanks for your help.  
 
Alys Lakewood
Herald of Tir Bannog
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