From mrs_mhood at shaw.ca Wed Sep 7 20:30:33 2011 From: mrs_mhood at shaw.ca (Roxanne Hood) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 20:30:33 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] September Coronet ~ voice heralds needed Message-ID: <5DB5FBA18DB7467BB9CC4B5F00C575C9@carncats.ca> Greetings! September Coronet is coming up fast and we're in need of voice herald volunteers for the tourney and town crying. No experience necessary. If you can help please let me know. We're also still looking for someone to take on the role of our Field & Town Cry Herald position. If anyone is interested, drop me a line. In Service, Caitrina Silver Yale -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kgarvey at sfu.ca Sun Sep 11 21:41:01 2011 From: kgarvey at sfu.ca (Kevin Garvey) Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Consultation and Progression Advice In-Reply-To: <381468995.642860.1315426064466.JavaMail.root@jaguar8.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <1753052750.39263.1315802461678.JavaMail.root@jaguar8.sfu.ca> Dia duit, A dear friend of mine, and scholar far beyond my wisdom and years has submitted the following information to me for advice. >From my very limited Book knowledge it would seem a submission sheet with this attached would be a fine, over-killed, document to send in to the College. What, if anything, shall I tell my Gael brother? Caemgen mac Garbith, Ex-Sable Loat "C? Collchaille Echduine James Acken (member no. 78206) The following paragraphs are in support of my application to register the name C? Collchaille Echduine as my society name. C? Collchaille is a Classical Gaelic (Pre-Early Modern Irish) form of an nominal construction popular throughout most of the Irish Middle Ages. There is one instance of its use in this particular form (i.e. C? Collchaille); the Annals of Ulster, The Annals of the Four Masters and the Annals of Loch C? all cite the same individual under the same circumstances. In 1119, C? Collchaille ?a Baighell?in was killed among the Fear Luircc alongside his wife, two sons and a large number of his countrymen. The annals call him the high poet of Ireland (ard ollam Erenn) for poems and sagacity, though he appears nowhere else in the extant corpus. In the same year, Aodh ?a Con Chenainn (Aodh grandson of C? Cenainn) died, while four years previously C? Slebe Ui Fearghal's son, Domhnall, died; The name C? thus possessed a great deal of popularity. This popularity extended down into the sixteenth century with several examples being C? Chonnacht Maguire in the sixteenth century to whom Tadhg Dall ? hUiginn wrote several bardic poems, several individuals of the late fifteenth and sixteenth centuries named C? Mhaighe, and (the most famous being) C? Choigcr?che (i.e. Hound of Five Borders) who was the scribe of Royal Irish Academy MS 1220 (olim C iii 3) along with M?ch?l ? Cl?irigh (ca. 1590-1643), his cousin. The most usual construction is C? (hound) + a noun in the genitive, as in C? Chulainn: 'the hound of Cualann'. Neither are these specifically placenames in the genitive, as C? Cuallachta, 'Hound of the wolf-litters' (d. 1181), exemplifies. The earliest historical form of this construction can be found in entries of the Annals for the seventh century; C? Gamna or 'hound of the Calf' and C? Cen Mathair or 'Hound without a Mother' can be found at this time and the latter as late as the ninth century. These show that while the basic construction generally holds true, the name relies primarily on the idea of a hound associated with a place or quality. Hence C? Collchaille denotes a 'Hound of a Hazelwood' and C? Cuimne, a 'Hound of Memory' (d. 742), both are appropriate appelations for a sage or poet since hazelnuts were associated with inspiration and memory was a necessary quality for the scholar. Echduine as a final element of this name is merely an extension of the genetival phrase collchaille. In nearly all instances of the name C?, the second element is considered of one part with the first, as is shown in the instances such as C? Slebe ?a Fearghal and C? Chonnacht Maguire. Edmond Hogan sites Trinity College Manuscript H.1.18 as the source for one Eguin Echd?ine ? Maolsheachloinn Mide (Eginn of the Horse-fort, grandson of Maolsheachlainn of Meath). Hogan interprets Echd?ine as Ech-d?n: horse-fort, although there is a distinct possibility that Echduine, interpreted as horse-man on the analogy of Echb?l (horse-mouth) in Sc?la Muicce Meic D? Th?, is an approximation of the name Hector. The name Alexander was very popular in Gaelic Scotland through translations of classical Greek tales and Hector, tamer of horses from the Iliad, was often rendered echduine. Whichever is the case, Echduine is fitting for C? Collchaille as it either works as 'Hound of the horse-fort's hazelwood' (interpreting Echd?ine as a genitive singular of ech-d?n) or as 'Hound of the Horsemen's Hazelwood (interpreting it as a genitive plural of Echduine). The difference lies in whether or not an accent is placed over the 'u'. Works Cited: Edmund Hogan, SJ, Onomasticon Goedelicum locorum et tribuum Hiberniae et Scotiae: An index, with identifications, to the Gaelic names of places and tribes(Hodges Figgis: Dublin, 1910) [online]. Available athttp://publish.ucc.ie/doi/locus Eleanor Knott ed. and trans., The Bardic Poems of Tadhg Dall ? hUiginn, Irish Texts Society (London: Simpkin, Marshall, Hamilton, Kent & co, 1922). Kathleen M. O'Brien (2009) Index of Names in Irish Annals: C? Chonnacht [online]. Available at 14 June 2010. She records some twenty other forms of names based on the formula C? + a modifying noun in the gentive (e.g. C? Catha, Hound of Battles; C? Mara, Hound of the Sea; and C? Muman, Hound of Munster.) Rudolf Thurneysen ed., Sc?la Muicce Meic D? Th?, (Dublin: DIAS, 1935) Annals of the Four Masters, Annals of Loch C?, Annals of Ulster; all available at the Corpus of Electronic Texts (http://www.ucc.ie/celt)" From BasilD at lavabit.com Mon Sep 12 12:23:08 2011 From: BasilD at lavabit.com (Basil) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:23:08 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Consultation and Progression Advice In-Reply-To: <1753052750.39263.1315802461678.JavaMail.root@jaguar8.sfu.ca> References: <1753052750.39263.1315802461678.JavaMail.root@jaguar8.sfu.ca> Message-ID: <4E6E5C1C.8080107@lavabit.com> Kevin Garvey wrote: > > Dia duit, > > A dear friend of mine, and scholar far beyond my wisdom and years has submitted the following information to me for advice. > From my very limited Book knowledge it would seem a submission sheet with this attached would be a fine, over-killed, document to send in to the College. > What, if anything, shall I tell my Gael brother? > > > Caemgen mac Garbith, > Ex-Sable Loat Did he include copies of the (A)title page (B)publication data and (C)pages the info comes from, for all of the works he cited? None of them are in Appendix H of the Administrative Handbook of the College of Arms of the Society for Creative Anachronism, Inc. (http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/admin.html#APPENDIXH), so full information must be included in the submission. ~~Basil Dragonstrike Every dream has a blind side, a trapdoor that's tripped by doubt. -- Webb Wilder "The Rest (Will Take Care of Itself)" Peritia zmaragdus est; sapientia adam?s est. Compar?vistine impensae e?rum n?per? From Caitrina at shaw.ca Tue Sep 13 12:00:57 2011 From: Caitrina at shaw.ca (Caitrina Silver Yale) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:00:57 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Heralds meeting at Tir Righ Coronet Message-ID: <4C27807489D942D59102E54AE9D87879@carncats.ca> Greetings! There will be a Heralds meeting at 11am, Sunday, Sept 24th. exact location to be announced at the event. All are welcome! There will be fudge! 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Wulfstan On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Send Collegeofheralds mailing list submissions to > collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > collegeofheralds-owner at tirrigh.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Collegeofheralds digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Heralds meeting at Tir Righ Coronet (Caitrina Silver Yale) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:00:57 -0700 > From: "Caitrina Silver Yale" > To: , "'Northern'" > > Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Heralds meeting at Tir Righ Coronet > Message-ID: <4C27807489D942D59102E54AE9D87879 at carncats.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Greetings! > > > > There will be a Heralds meeting at 11am, Sunday, Sept 24th. exact location > to be announced at the event. All are welcome! 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Caitrina sad Herald _____ From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Wulfstan Hrafnsson Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:34 PM To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Collegeofheralds Digest, Vol 40, Issue 4 I haven't seen an event schedule yet; is it known if that conflicts with Squire's Tourney? I'll be there if not. Wulfstan On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:00 AM, wrote: Send Collegeofheralds mailing list submissions to collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/collegeofheralds_tirrigh.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to collegeofheralds-request at tirrigh.org You can reach the person managing the list at collegeofheralds-owner at tirrigh.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Collegeofheralds digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Heralds meeting at Tir Righ Coronet (Caitrina Silver Yale) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:00:57 -0700 From: "Caitrina Silver Yale" To: , "'Northern'" Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Heralds meeting at Tir Righ Coronet Message-ID: <4C27807489D942D59102E54AE9D87879 at carncats.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Greetings! There will be a Heralds meeting at 11am, Sunday, Sept 24th. exact location to be announced at the event. All are welcome! There will be fudge! Regards, Caitrina Silver Yale "Quarterly gules and sable, a winged fox sejant argent." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bear_necessities at telus.net Fri Sep 16 10:32:25 2011 From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:32:25 -0700 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Collegeofheralds Digest, Vol 40, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <0C6E77197B1C472384D9D645E0AD286B@carncats.ca> References: <0C6E77197B1C472384D9D645E0AD286B@carncats.ca> Message-ID: <3F22E9EE9CB7403B9C586E91068DEF2C@MorelPC> Caitrina Sad Herald wrote: > Squires tourney starts at 10:30 but it's very hard not to conflict with > something. Not to worry. At the last Investiture we announced the > meeting > making sure it only conflicted with one thing and still no one showed up. > > The awesome cookies we had were not even an incentive. I'll be showing up! Cookies not necessary... Dori From bear_necessities at telus.net Tue Sep 20 05:08:47 2011 From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Zupanic) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 12:08:47 +0000 Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] hello collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org Message-ID: hey collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org this is sick http://www.nbcl0news.com