[tirrigh-heralds] cc check please: (fieldless) An alder leaf bendwise

[Basil]

Morel Carr Zupanic wrote:
> Can I please get a second look at  (fieldless) An alder leaf bendwise.

What tincture?

> The only possible conflict I found was:
> Jesca McCutchen - The following device associated with this name was
> registered in February of 1992 (via the Middle):
> Lozengy Or and gules, an oak leaf bendwise inverted vert.
>
> I understand from looking at the precidents that there would be no
> difference between a leaf and a leaf inverted. But, I found the
> following precedent, giving a difference for leaf shapes. Alder leaves
> are comparable in shape to elm leaves.
>
> The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004)
> ... there is a CD between an oak leaf and an elm leaf ... [Ralf of Oak
> Lawn the Oxhandler and Elaina of Oaklawn, 06/2002, A-Ansteorra]
>
> Doireann Silver Yale

Some leaf precedents:

..with a CD...and another for the difference between a maple leaf and 
an aspen leaf...[Caerthe, Barony of., 12/05, A-Outlands]

.There is a significant, but not a substantial, difference between 
oak leaves and maple leaves...[Natali'a Petrova Moskvina, 07/05, 
R-Northshield]

.. There is another CD for change of type between oak leaves and 
strawberry leaves. [Helena Gewolf, LoAR 12/2004, Calontir-A]

There is significant enough difference between a hawthorn leaf and a 
maple leaf to allow a CD for type, providing the second CD. [Avicia le 
Mey, A-An Tir]

[Vert, on a mirror argent glassed vert, an oak leaf argent]...This is 
clear of Eva van Oudeachterkol's badge for Embla Willsdottir: Vert, an 
elm leaf in bend sinister environed of a cartouche voided argent...If 
we consider Eva/Embla's badge as Vert, on a cartouche vert fimbriated 
a leaf bendwise sinister argent with the leaf as a tertiary charge, 
there is a CD for changing the type and orientation. If we considered 
this submission as Vert, an oak leaf within a mirror voided argent 
then there would be two separate CDs for type and orientation.[Ailís 
inghean Mhuirghein, East] (IOW, oak leaves and elm leaves are a CD apart)


All-in-all, it looks like an aspen leaf and an oak leaf ought to be a 
CD/DC apart.


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