[tirrigh-heralds] cc please (fieldless) A crow close sable

[Joan Kew]

Sorry, too early ... what I meant was ...

I'd call that supreme luck on the part of the submitter! I looked for raven and corbie, in case you hadn't, and couldn't find anything. I'm not up on the oanda enough to rule out other non-poultry birds.

Hawise


----- Original Message -----
From: "Morel Carr Zupanic" <bear_necessities at telus.net>
To: "AnTir Heralds" <antir-heralds at antir.sca.org>, collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 2:43:59 AM
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] cc please (fieldless) A crow close sable

I cannot believe that this is free of conflict, so I am asking for a second 
look, please.

(fieldless) A crow close sable.

There are two pieces of armoury that gave me pause, but according to 
precedent are clear of conflict with my client's proposed badge.

Sancha de Flores   (August of 2003 via the East):
    (Fieldless) A cock sable, headed and queued gules.

Dietrich Kempenich von Eltz   (August of 2011 via Ansteorra):
    Argent, a brown hen proper.

>From The Tenure of François la Flamme (August 2001 - April 2004):
"Birds in different categories are given substantial difference from each 
other as long as they meet the general requirements for substantial 
difference listed above." Poultry-shaped birds and regular shaped birds are 
in two different categories, according to this same precedent.

Doireann 


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