[tirrigh-heralds] Received AoA, now I need CoA

[Judy Harcus]

Thanks for finding that, Basil.  I think that's the ruling I was 
remembering.
Alicia Red Flame

Basil wrote:

> As a follow-up:
>
> On 5/28/2013 11:14 PM, Judy Harcus wrote:
>
>>
>> 4) I believe there is a restriction on the use of a skull and
>> crossbones but I would have to check that.
>
>
> The only precedent I can find is:
> "[Quarterly gules and sable, in pale a jawless skull and a pair of
> cutlasses in saltire argent.] This violates RfS VIII.4, Obtrusive
> Modernity, and specifically VIII.4.b, Modern Insignia. VIII.4.b states
> 'Overt allusions to modern insignia, trademarks, or common designs may
> not be registered.' VIII.4 states that '"modern" is defined as
> anything outside the period of the Society.' It was the overwhelming
> opinion of the College that this motif is too reminiscent of pirate
> designs featuring a skull above crossed items (typically bones or
> cutlasses) that go back only to the early 18th century. In particular
> (as noted by Palmer), John 'Calico Jack' Rackham (hanged for a pirate
> in 1720) was reported to fly Sable, in pale a skull and a pair of
> cutlasses in saltire argent. Laurel precedent has held that 'A name
> that, by its very presence, destroys any medieval ambience is not a
> name we should register.' (Porsche Audi, August 1992, p.28) The same
> applies to armory, and designs such as this almost inevitably generate
> thoughts of post-period pirates, which likewise 'destroy any medieval
> ambience'. (We do not dispute the presence in period of those who
> practiced piracy or something closely akin to it. That is not the
> point.) [Alastair Corran, LoAR 06/2004, East-R]"
>
> Thus, while only skull & cutlasses was ruled on, skull & bones is 
> clearly referenced. I, too, believe a skull and bones would not be 
> registered.
>
>
> ~~Basil Dragonstrike
>
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