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<DIV><SPAN class=250010718-01062007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Hi Silver Yale, and my other fellow heralds of Tir
Righ </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250010718-01062007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250010718-01062007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Not
sure of the answer to this one, as I haven't heard back from the last set we
sent to their Highnesses. I had hoped you might have been given some
feedback on these at Investiture. However below is what I
copied to Her Highness Caoimhinn from the e-mail I sent to you on badge
repatriation. And to my knowledge, no decisions have been made on
these.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250010718-01062007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=250010718-01062007></SPAN><SPAN class=250010718-01062007><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007>"</SPAN>The Alpine lily would conflict with the use of
"their Alpine Highnesses" in</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Summits. I have looked at Edelweiss,
at on checking the O&A it would</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>conflict checked with multi petaled
flowers. The Kingdom of Drachenwald has</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>the "Order of the Edelweiss" so, we
would have to have it modified if we</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>want it. For example "The Order of
the Ice Edelweiss" and suggested badge</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>could be Azure within an orle an
edelweiss argent slipped and leaved or.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The Lumiere du Nord. I can find no
medieval example of an order that has a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>direction included in it. Also, I
remember the problems we had when we</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>wanted to have our Principality
called "The North". Laurel Soverign of Arms</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ruled it conflicted with the North of
the American Civil War. Lumiere is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>perfectly plausible and we could, as
I mentioned call it the Lumiere of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>TirRigh as there are many examples
medievally to support this type of name.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We could try to define it with a
colour such as the Lumiere Or then all we</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>would have to do is define what the
lumiere is, a candle? a torch? etc. I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>also suggest the "Order of the Light
Bearer" which can be documented by the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"The Sword Bearers" Livonia,
1201CE.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The Lightning Spear is clear of
conflict as far as I am able to determine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I am also going to send the info on
the awards to our ban-Tanist Caoimhinn</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>who has emailed yesterday
me asking for the information on the awards.<SPAN
class=250010718-01062007>"</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007>I like the idea of creating a name for the award that
would also match a herald, but I don't know how far from the original award
concepts their Highness would want to move to create such serendipity. At
the moment we have no awards that would coincide with a voice herald for example
and neither Lilies nor Lights can be easily worked into it. Although with
tongue in cheek, I suggest Lumiere for a Court Herald, as it is what they need
most to read scrolls in a dark court. :)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007>There is also, the Glowing Ember, the Guardian and the
Princesses Talon of Favor didn't pass either ( as you will recall, they were the
next group to deal with after the above 3 had been sorted out) and they
might have some room for adjustment as well. I will start working on
them, and I would love to have input from Tir Righ's other heralds.
Hi out there! </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007>And we have to remember the final choices are
always those of the Prince and Princess and our duty to help them find
things they like and we can get passed, nice if the worked both ways
though.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007>Yours heraldically, </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=250010718-01062007>Theocharista Red
Flame</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=250010718-01062007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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class=250010718-01062007></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Quentin
Martel<BR><B>Sent:</B> May 31, 2007 10:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'mark hood';
collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a
cool idea!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=795530305-01062007>I, for one, wouldn't mind recognizing the double duty
of the award name. Theocharista, what are the Etoile names we've been working
on?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=795530305-01062007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=795530305-01062007>- QSY</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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