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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Huzzah! Wow.. I didn’t realize this
one!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>We should do something-or-other.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ullm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Laura Offley [mailto:damozel@shaw.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 01, 2007 2:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Rosemary Underhill<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Quentin Martel; 'mark hood'; collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Just a note to this - please be aware that our Prince and
Princess are taking the next 2 weeks to prepare for Their wedding on June 16.
If you don't receive a response from Them right away, this is why.<br>
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I'm trying to clear Their plate a little so They can concentrate on things
non-SCA. It doesn't mean that you won't hear from them, but Her Highness is
still working in Prince George and comes to Vancouver on weekends to deal with
the wedding.<br>
<br>
Yolande (Head-of-Retinue)<br>
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Rosemary Underhill wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Hi Silver Yale, and my other fellow heralds of Tir
Righ </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Not sure of the answer to this one, as I haven't heard back from
the last set we sent to their Highnesses. I had hoped you might have been
given some feedback on these at Investiture. However below is
what I copied to Her Highness Caoimhinn from the e-mail I sent to
you on badge repatriation. And to my knowledge, no decisions have been
made on these.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>"The Alpine lily would conflict with the use of "their
Alpine Highnesses" in</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Summits. I have looked at Edelweiss, at on checking the O&A it
would</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>conflict checked with multi petaled flowers. The Kingdom of
Drachenwald has</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>the "Order of the Edelweiss" so, we would have to have it
modified if we</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>want it. For example "The Order of the Ice Edelweiss" and
suggested badge</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>could be Azure within an orle an edelweiss argent slipped and
leaved or.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>The Lumiere du Nord. I can find no medieval example of an order
that has a</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>direction included in it. Also, I remember the problems we had when
we</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>wanted to have our Principality called "The North".
Laurel Soverign of Arms</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>ruled it conflicted with the North of the American Civil War.
Lumiere is</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>perfectly plausible and we could, as I mentioned call it the
Lumiere of</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>TirRigh as there are many examples medievally to support this type
of name.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>We could try to define it with a colour such as the Lumiere Or then
all we</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>would have to do is define what the lumiere is, a candle? a torch?
etc. I</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>also suggest the "Order of the Light Bearer" which can be
documented by the</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>"The Sword Bearers" Livonia, 1201CE.</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>The Lightning Spear is clear of conflict as far as I am able to
determine.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I am also going to send the info on the awards to our ban-Tanist
Caoimhinn</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>who has emailed yesterday me asking for the information on the
awards."</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I like the idea of creating a name for the award that would also
match a herald, but I don't know how far from the original award concepts their
Highness would want to move to create such serendipity. At the moment we
have no awards that would coincide with a voice herald for example and neither
Lilies nor Lights can be easily worked into it. Although with tongue in
cheek, I suggest Lumiere for a Court Herald, as it is what they need most to
read scrolls in a dark court. :)</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>There is also, the Glowing Ember, the Guardian and the Princesses
Talon of Favor didn't pass either ( as you will recall, they were the next
group to deal with after the above 3 had been sorted out) and they might
have some room for adjustment as well. I will start working on
them, and I would love to have input from Tir Righ's other heralds.
Hi out there! </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>And we have to remember the final choices are always
those of the Prince and Princess and our duty to help them find things
they like and we can get passed, nice if the worked both ways though.</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Yours heraldically, </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:blue'>Theocharista Red Flame</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org">collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org">mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org</a>]<b>On
Behalf Of </b>Quentin Martel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> May 31, 2007 10:05 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'mark hood'; <a href="mailto:collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org">collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea!</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I, for one, wouldn't mind recognizing the double duty of the award
name. Theocharista, what are the Etoile names we've been working on?</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>- QSY</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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