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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007>This is another in the series of award name
conversations. This time - the Etoile d'Argent.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007>This award conflicts directly with the Silver Star of
Trimaris. Differnt language, but the exact same meaning means no dice on passing
it. We don't want to conflict with another branch's award at all, but to
conflict with a Kingdom award is really bad.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007>Our last discussions on this had a strong desire for a
french theme and Lumiere du Nord was the favorite. But as we see below, it fails
the documentation test.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007>So what other options are there?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007>Please discuss!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=936052504-03062007>- Quentin Silver Yale</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Rosemary Underhill
[mailto:cocinera@shaw.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01, 2007 11:46
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Quentin Martel; 'mark hood';
collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [tirrigh-heralds] What a
cool idea!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The Lumiere du Nord. I can find no
medieval example of an order that has a</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>direction included in it. Also, I
remember the problems we had when we</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>wanted to have our Principality
called "The North". Laurel Soverign of Arms</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ruled it conflicted with the North of
the American Civil War. Lumiere is</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>perfectly plausible and we could, as
I mentioned call it the Lumiere of</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>TirRigh as there are many examples
medievally to support this type of name.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>We could try to define it with a
colour such as the Lumiere Or then all we</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>would have to do is define what the
lumiere is, a candle? a torch? etc. I</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>also suggest the "Order of the Light
Bearer" which can be documented by the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"The Sword Bearers" Livonia,
1201CE.</FONT></DIV>
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