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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=717372206-03062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Great points!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=717372206-03062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=717372206-03062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>According to <A
href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lightning">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lightning</A>,
lightning can be used as a noun, verb, or adjective. In it's adjective case, we
fit perfectly into the Adjective + Thing pattern listed at <A
href="http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/">http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/</A>
(Adjective + Thing - Holy Phial, Precious Blood, Pontifical
Medal).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=717372206-03062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=717372206-03062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Would that work?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=717372206-03062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=717372206-03062007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>- QSY</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Caitrina Sable Loat
[mailto:Caitrina@shaw.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:36
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Quentin Martel';
collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning
Spear discussion<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">My lord Uilliam is suggesting
the Stone Spear with Stone being an adjective. (Stone, mountains… you get the
gist). Adjective + Thing does follow frequently used patterns in
accordance with the </SPAN><SPAN class=texttitle1><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Project
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=texttitle1><SPAN lang=DE
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ordensnamen. <A
href="http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/">http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/</A>
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=texttitle1><SPAN lang=DE
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=texttitle1><SPAN lang=DE
style="COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Caitrina</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Caitrina Sable
Loat<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:18 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Quentin
Martel'; collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tirrigh-heralds]
Lightning Spear discussion<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">I’m not sure if Lightning Spear
would follow acceptable order naming practices. To me Lightning is a
“thing” and I can find no instance showing this would be acceptable. It
would be Lightning + Spear so Thing + Thing. Although infrequent, it
should be acceptable to name it Lightning & Spear but that kind of takes
away from the idea. I’ll keep looking and if anyone thinks Lightning is
not a thing let me know.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Caitrina<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Quentin
Martel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning
Spear discussion<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Another
thread for discussion a particular award name to pass.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Lightning
Spear. This is to rename the Shattered Spear. The issue there is there's no
medieval precedent for a broken weapon to be an actual award. Rather it was
something you tried to avoid. I believe that the Old Shattered Shield is passed
through being passed when we accepted all sorts of interesting things
as valid documentation.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I like
Lightning Spear! It's a spear, it fits the Tir Righ motif. The holders of it can
and should be proud of it.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Please
discuss!</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">-
Quentin Silver Yale</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
Rosemary Underhill [mailto:cocinera@shaw.ca] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 01,
2007 11:46 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Quentin Martel; 'mark hood';
collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [tirrigh-heralds] What a
cool idea!</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">The
Lightning Spear is clear of conflict as far as I am able to
determine.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I am
also going to send the info on the awards to our ban-Tanist
Caoimhinn</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">who has
emailed yesterday me asking for the information on the awards."</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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