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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Hum. I think I’m
still on the fence on this one. To me, Lightning still doesn’t fall
into the same category as the examples given. This Blood is
Precious. This is the Pontifical Medal. This Phial is Holy.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>This Spear is Lightning.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Maybe it’s me, but I’m
still debating this one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Ullm<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Quentin
Martel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Caitrina Sable Loat'; 'Quentin Martel';
collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Great points!</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>According to <a
href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lightning">http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lightning</a>,
lightning can be used as a noun, verb, or adjective. In it's adjective case, we
fit perfectly into the Adjective + Thing pattern listed at <a
href="http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/">http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/</a>
(Adjective + Thing - Holy Phial, Precious Blood, Pontifical Medal).</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Would that work?</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>- QSY</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
Caitrina Sable Loat [mailto:Caitrina@shaw.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>My lord Uilliam is suggesting
the Stone Spear with Stone being an adjective. (Stone, mountains… you get
the gist). Adjective + Thing does follow frequently used patterns in
accordance with the <span class=texttitle1><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Project
</span></span></span><span class=texttitle1><span lang=DE style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ordensnamen. <a
href="http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/">http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=texttitle1><span lang=DE style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=texttitle1><span lang=DE style='font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Caitrina</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Caitrina
Sable Loat<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I’m not sure if Lightning
Spear would follow acceptable order naming practices. To me Lightning is
a “thing” and I can find no instance showing this would be
acceptable. It would be Lightning + Spear so Thing + Thing. Although
infrequent, it should be acceptable to name it Lightning & Spear but that
kind of takes away from the idea. I’ll keep looking and if anyone
thinks Lightning is not a thing let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Caitrina<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces@tirrigh.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Quentin
Martel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Another thread for discussion a particular award name to pass.</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Lightning Spear. This is to rename the Shattered Spear. The issue
there is there's no medieval precedent for a broken weapon to be an actual
award. Rather it was something you tried to avoid. I believe that the Old
Shattered Shield is passed through being passed when we accepted all sorts
of interesting things as valid documentation.</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I like Lightning Spear! It's a spear, it fits the Tir Righ motif.
The holders of it can and should be proud of it.</span><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Please discuss!</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:
"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>- Quentin Silver Yale</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>
Rosemary Underhill [mailto:cocinera@shaw.ca] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 01, 2007 11:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Quentin Martel; 'mark hood'; collegeofheralds@tirrigh.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea!</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>The Lightning Spear is clear of conflict as far as I am able to
determine.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>I am also going to send the info on the awards to our ban-Tanist
Caoimhinn</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>who has emailed yesterday me asking for the information on the
awards."</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:windowtext'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
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