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My original attempt to post this got bounced by the list as being too
big, so I'm reposting it with separate messages for name, device and
badge.<br>
<br>
PART 1 - Name<br>
<br>
Wulfstan Hrafnsson wrote:<br>
<blockquote
cite="midAANLkTilI50OKGmMaJcYOoVdnm7JX0jtUm5O7fF7SqiL8@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hi all!<br>
<br>
I decided that a good way to learn this stuff would be to do a
(relatively) full conflict check on my own name, device and badge.
I've included my thought process and sources for such findings as I've
come up with, so any double-checking that anyone is willing to do would
be remarkably appreciated. I'm good at second-guessing, but seldom in
a useful way.<br>
</blockquote>
This is an excellent way to learn and I encourage other people to do
this as well. It helps to show what you do understand well as well as
what you might have missed. A large portion of my learning was done
this way.<br>
<blockquote
cite="midAANLkTilI50OKGmMaJcYOoVdnm7JX0jtUm5O7fF7SqiL8@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite"><br>
Here's what I am looking at submitting for myself:<br>
<b><br>
Name: Wulfstan Hrafnsson</b><br>
<b><br>
</b>* This fits the [given] + [patronymic] pattern for Norse names
given by the Kingdom of the West College of Heralds in their article
at: <a
href="http://heralds.westkingdom.org/ClassHandouts/CommonNamingPatterns.htm#ByCulture"
target="_blank">http://heralds.westkingdom.org/ClassHandouts/CommonNamingPatterns.htm#ByCulture</a>.
I'm not registering a byname until I've done something sufficiently
remarkable or silly to earn one in common usage. <br>
<br>
* Neither part of the name has another form listed as a conflict issue
by Laurel:<br>
<a
href="http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/ConflictTables.html"
target="_blank">http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/precedents/CompiledNamePrecedents/ConflictTables.html</a><br>
<br>
* "Wulfstan" appears to be supported by Bardsley, 331 (1996 ed;
reference in entry on "Gouldstone") and by Searle (1969 ed; entries on
188, 506 and 519). All appear to be 10th century, as is my persona.
There were also two 11th century Northumbrian bishops of the name, one
who died in 1023 and was Bishop of London and Worcester and Archbishop
of York, and a St Wulfstan (1008-95). <br>
<br>
* If someone could check out Geirr Bassi re: "Hrafn" and/or "Hrafnsson"
I would be most appreciative! I might even make cookies! I don't have
access to a hard copy at the moment (though I haven't been to the
library as yet) and Google Books doesn't have it, though it does have a
couple of other topic books that use it as a source.<br>
<br>
* I have found a College of St Gabriel report supporting "Hrafnsdottir"
as a patronymic; would this then also support the similar use of
"Hrafnsson"? There is also one supporting "Hrafn" alone as a male
given name.<br>
<br>
<pre>ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 3143
<a href="http://www.s-gabriel.org/3143" target="_blank">http://www.s-gabriel.org/3143</a>
ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 3198
<a href="http://www.s-gabriel.org/3198" target="_blank">http://www.s-gabriel.org/3198</a>
</pre>
* I realise that "Wulfstan" is an English name and "Hrafn", used as a
name, is Norse (it mainly seems to be Icelandic; though "hrafn" is also
the Old English for "raven" it may not have been used as a name in
England in my period). This would be my weirdness. Some would say
that's not my only weirdness, but it's the only one pertaining to my
name.<br>
</blockquote>
A check on the lingual weirdness table
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.ellipsis.cx/%7Eliana/sca/weirdness_table.html">http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/sca/weirdness_table.html</a>
confirms that
Norse combined with either English or Old English is registerable but a
weirdness (step from period practice). Considering the dates, it looks
to me like Wulfstan is Old English.<br>
<br>
I don't have the books to confirm Wulfstan and without seeing the exact
quotes from those books (hint, hint) I can't comment other than to say
it sounds like it's supported.<br>
<br>
Here's another article (from the Medieval Names Archive) regarding the
construction of Norse names:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.ellipsis.cx/%7Eliana/names/norse/sg-viking.html">http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/sg-viking.html</a>.
This looks
like it supports the construction Hrafnsson based on Hrafnsdottir
(names are not my strong point, so perhaps someone else will comment
here too).<br>
There are some websites listed at the bottom of the St Gabriel reports
- it's worth checking those too.<br>
Here's additional support for Hrafn:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.ellipsis.cx/%7Eliana/names/norse/landnamabok.html">http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html</a><br>
Hrafn is listed in Geirr Bassi on page 11 with a count of 17.<br>
<br>
Did you do a conflict check on the name? This is where the name
pattern search form <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_np.cgi">http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_np.cgi</a>
is useful. You
should check partial names and variations (such as Hrafn, rafn, Raven,
Wolf, etc.). Post a message showing how you searched, and what you
found that was close.<br>
<br>
Alicia<br>
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