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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Arial>Wow, thank you so much! I will try to get
more info on her name tomorrow. As pathetic as it may be, I am about ready to
hit the sack.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3 face=Arial>Dori</FONT></DIV>
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device "Or, a ship in full sail between three cinquefoil vert all within a
double tressure sable" appears to be clear.<BR>As far as I can tell, it's clear
without the tressure as well (there are very few vert ships).<BR><BR>As for the
name - <BR><BR>Appendix A of SENA says double given names are found in Italian
names, so that's no problem.<BR><BR>Documenting Alessandra is fairly easy.
It can be found in the following documents:<BR><SPAN><A
href="http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/italian.html">http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/names/italian.html</A>
Italian Renaissance Women's Names by Rhian Lyth of Blackmoor Vale (Jo Lori
Drake)<BR></SPAN><SPAN><A
href="http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html">http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/16thcvenice.html</A>
Names from Sixteenth Century Venice by Juliana de Luna (Julia
Smith)<BR></SPAN><SPAN><A
href="http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/womensalpha.html">http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/womensalpha.html</A>
A Listing of all Women’s Given Names from the Condado Section of the Florence
Catasto of 1427 by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith)</SPAN><BR><BR>I have not found
Lucianna anywhere. The closest is Lucia (found in all three documents
above) and <SPAN>Luchina (found in the last document above).<BR><BR>I have not
found Giancomo but have found Giacomo (without the 'n') as a common male given
name (also Giano, </SPAN><SPAN>Giacomino, and several
variation).</SPAN><SPAN> It appears patronymic bynames were used but I'm
not clear on the syntax (Giacomino as a given names seems to turn into Giacomini
as a byname, so Giacomo might be Giacomi as a patronymic byname) and whether it
should be preceded by 'di'. Appendix A of SENA says Italian
patronymics are "</SPAN>Marked (as <EM>di B)</EM>, multi-generational, unmarked,
Latinized", "Italian is incredibly variable in period, with names from
Venice, Tuscany, and the south all significantly different", "Latinized
patronymic bynames usually are just the father's name in the genitive form,
without <EM>filius</EM>/<EM>filia" </EM>and "Family names typically modify a
patronym or byname by removing the last vowel (if there is one) and adding –i.
Unmodified forms are found as well".<BR><SPAN><BR>I found these
in:<BR></SPAN><SPAN></SPAN><A
href="http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/mensalpha.html">http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/juliana/condado/mensalpha.html</A>
A Listing of all Men's Given Names from the Condado Section of the Florence
Catasto of 1427 by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith)<BR><SPAN><A
href="http://www.ellipsis.cx/%7Eliana/names/italian/venicegivalpha.html">http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/italian/venicegivalpha.html</A>
Fifteenth Century Venetian Masculine Names: Given Names Alphabetically by Sara
L. Uckelman known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael<BR></SPAN><SPAN><A
href="http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/maridonna/milaneseNotaries/">http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/maridonna/milaneseNotaries/</A>
Milanese Notaries 1396-1635 by Maridonna Benvenuti</SPAN><BR><SPAN><A
href="http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/name1.html">http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/name1.html</A>
LIST OF GIVEN NAMES (NAME1) FOUND IN THE TRE MAGGIORI<BR></SPAN><SPAN><A
href="http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/SURNAM1.html">http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/SURNAM1.html</A>
LIST OF SURNAMES (SURNAM1) IN THE TRE MAGGIORI<BR></SPAN><SPAN><BR><A
href="http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/n-names.html">http://www.stg.brown.edu/projects/tratte/doc/n-names.html</A>
A Note on Names. - Surnames. (SURNAM1, SURNAM2) says:<BR>"Surnames were often
derived from patronymics (Alberti from Albero, Capponi from Cappone, Ridolfi
from Ridolfo), although this was not automatic. The Capponi for instance, whose
first prior was in 1287, adopted a stable surname only toward the middle of the
fourteenth century. "<BR><BR>There is one of the De Felice Italian name books in
the Tir Righ Heraldic Library (I can't remember if it is first names or surnames
- </SPAN>Dizionario dei [nomi or cognomi] italiani<SPAN>). Perhaps ask
Aline to check and see if any of the names is in it, and what it says (it's in
Italian so someone may need to translate).<BR><BR>That's the best I can do
without more information on where she found the name elements.<BR>Alicia Red
Flame<BR></SPAN><BR></DIV></DIV>
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