From jademagpye at gmail.com  Mon Aug  1 22:50:41 2011
From: jademagpye at gmail.com (Amber)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 22:50:41 -0700
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Actually, a few people had left when Halima remembered that Dori had sent a 
written application for the position.  So I asked if we had a quorum and we 
still did, and Dori's message was read and the membership accepted her for 
the position.
Do we need to redo that?

Marina

-----Original Message----- 
From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:47 PM
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [Hartwood]The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?

Or Dori steps in as the council-appointed deputy, does the job pro-tem until
the process is properly completed.




James






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Good point!  And one that somehow was overlooked by a goodly number of us.
This does leave us for three months-ish without a herald in office, but that
shouldn't be a problem, as we have a number of heralds-at-large (voice and
book/protocol) to do any duties by request in the meantime.

Dori



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From susanhudema at shaw.ca  Mon Aug  1 23:26:18 2011
From: susanhudema at shaw.ca (Susan Hudema)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 23:26:18 -0700
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In my opinion we do need to complete the process. The Chair of the Meeting 
asked if any one had any further items to be discussed and then set the date 
for the next Council Meeting and adjourned. I don't think the situation 
warrants convening an emergency meeting and although it's likely that Dori 
has the best resume for the job someone else might be interested in 
presenting their credentials.
Sara
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Amber" <jademagpye at gmail.com>
To: <jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca>; <hartwood at tirrigh.org>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Hartwood] The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?


> Actually, a few people had left when Halima remembered that Dori had sent 
> a written application for the position.  So I asked if we had a quorum and 
> we still did, and Dori's message was read and the membership accepted her 
> for the position.
> Do we need to redo that?
>
> Marina
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:47 PM
> To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
> Subject: Re: [Hartwood]The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?
>
> Or Dori steps in as the council-appointed deputy, does the job pro-tem 
> until
> the process is properly completed.
>
>
>
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Good point!  And one that somehow was overlooked by a goodly number of us.
> This does leave us for three months-ish without a herald in office, but 
> that
> shouldn't be a problem, as we have a number of heralds-at-large (voice and
> book/protocol) to do any duties by request in the meantime.
>
> Dori
>
>
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From bear_necessities at telus.net  Tue Aug  2 20:01:43 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 20:01:43 -0700
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Marina wrote:
> So I asked if we had a quorum and we still did, and Dori's message was 
> read and the membership accepted her for the position.
> Do we need to redo that?

I don't have a copy of the reworked charter, but it is in the original, that 
folks need a minimum of two weeks between notice of an office vacancy, and a 
vote for the new officer.  I know you don't want to redo, but it is a good 
idea, and will give other people a chance to apply if they like.  It won't 
take long out of council!

If someone with little or no experience wants to try for the position of 
herald, and gets voted in, I'll be more than happy to help in any way I can, 
if they like.

Dori 




From doerksen at island.net  Wed Aug  3 00:03:14 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 00:03:14 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?
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The charter is being worked on some more. However, it is gracious of  
you, Dori, to permit time for others to consider applying for the  
position.

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Tue 02 Aug 2011 08:01:43 PM PDT, quoting Morel Carr Zupanic  
<bear_necessities at telus.net>:

> Marina wrote:
>> So I asked if we had a quorum and we still did, and Dori's message  
>> was read and the membership accepted her for the position.
>> Do we need to redo that?
>>
> Dori replied:
> I don't have a copy of the reworked charter, but it is in the  
> original, that folks need a minimum of two weeks between notice of  
> an office vacancy, and a vote for the new officer.  I know you don't  
> want to redo, but it is a good idea, and will give other people a  
> chance to apply if they like.  It won't take long out of council!
>
> If someone with little or no experience wants to try for the  
> position of herald, and gets voted in, I'll be more than happy to  
> help in any way I can, if they like.
>
> Dori




From redshasta at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 10:18:48 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:18:48 -0700
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There is no other herald; there is only Dori.


On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Susan Hudema <susanhudema at shaw.ca> wrote:

> In my opinion we do need to complete the process. The Chair of the Meeting
> asked if any one had any further items to be discussed and then set the date
> for the next Council Meeting and adjourned. I don't think the situation
> warrants convening an emergency meeting and although it's likely that Dori
> has the best resume for the job someone else might be interested in
> presenting their credentials.
> Sara
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amber" <jademagpye at gmail.com>
> To: <jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca>; <hartwood at tirrigh.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:50 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Hartwood] The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?
>
>
>  Actually, a few people had left when Halima remembered that Dori had sent
>> a written application for the position.  So I asked if we had a quorum and
>> we still did, and Dori's message was read and the membership accepted her
>> for the position.
>> Do we need to redo that?
>>
>> Marina
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:47 PM
>> To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
>> Subject: Re: [Hartwood]The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?
>>
>> Or Dori steps in as the council-appointed deputy, does the job pro-tem
>> until
>> the process is properly completed.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ------------------------------**---------------------
>> Good point!  And one that somehow was overlooked by a goodly number of us.
>> This does leave us for three months-ish without a herald in office, but
>> that
>> shouldn't be a problem, as we have a number of heralds-at-large (voice and
>> book/protocol) to do any duties by request in the meantime.
>>
>> Dori
>>
>>
>>
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From redshasta at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 10:20:17 2011
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Unless Zuul applies; then there will be two heralds and then the end of the
world.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is no other herald; there is only Dori.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Susan Hudema <susanhudema at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> In my opinion we do need to complete the process. The Chair of the Meeting
>> asked if any one had any further items to be discussed and then set the date
>> for the next Council Meeting and adjourned. I don't think the situation
>> warrants convening an emergency meeting and although it's likely that Dori
>> has the best resume for the job someone else might be interested in
>> presenting their credentials.
>> Sara
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amber" <jademagpye at gmail.com>
>> To: <jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca>; <hartwood at tirrigh.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:50 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Hartwood] The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?
>>
>>
>>  Actually, a few people had left when Halima remembered that Dori had sent
>>> a written application for the position.  So I asked if we had a quorum and
>>> we still did, and Dori's message was read and the membership accepted her
>>> for the position.
>>> Do we need to redo that?
>>>
>>> Marina
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca
>>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:47 PM
>>> To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Hartwood]The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?
>>>
>>> Or Dori steps in as the council-appointed deputy, does the job pro-tem
>>> until
>>> the process is properly completed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>> ------------------------------**---------------------
>>> Good point!  And one that somehow was overlooked by a goodly number of
>>> us.
>>> This does leave us for three months-ish without a herald in office, but
>>> that
>>> shouldn't be a problem, as we have a number of heralds-at-large (voice
>>> and
>>> book/protocol) to do any duties by request in the meantime.
>>>
>>> Dori
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From jademagpye at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 10:48:53 2011
From: jademagpye at gmail.com (Amber)
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In order to give Zuul and his buddies a chance to serve the great shire of Hartwood, and since Dori is willing to compete against him for the position, we can publish the position as open.  Since Dori was my deputy herald I hope she can step in until then.

And may the better being win.  If Zuul is in fact a heraldic monster does that give him an unfair advantage?
Marina

From: Julie MacT?re 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:20 AM
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org 
Subject: Re: [Hartwood]The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?

Unless Zuul applies; then there will be two heralds and then the end of the world.


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com> wrote:

There is no other herald; there is only Dori.
  On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:26 PM, Susan Hudema <susanhudema at shaw.ca> wrote:

    In my opinion we do need to complete the process. The Chair of the Meeting asked if any one had any further items to be discussed and then set the date for the next Council Meeting and adjourned. I don't think the situation warrants convening an emergency meeting and although it's likely that Dori has the best resume for the job someone else might be interested in presenting their credentials.
    Sara
    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amber" <jademagpye at gmail.com>
    To: <jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca>; <hartwood at tirrigh.org>
    Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 10:50 PM 

    Subject: Re: [Hartwood] The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?



      Actually, a few people had left when Halima remembered that Dori had sent a written application for the position.  So I asked if we had a quorum and we still did, and Dori's message was read and the membership accepted her for the position.
      Do we need to redo that?

      Marina

      -----Original Message----- From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca
      Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 10:47 PM
      To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
      Subject: Re: [Hartwood]The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?

      Or Dori steps in as the council-appointed deputy, does the job pro-tem until
      the process is properly completed.




      James






      ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      Good point!  And one that somehow was overlooked by a goodly number of us.
      This does leave us for three months-ish without a herald in office, but that
      shouldn't be a problem, as we have a number of heralds-at-large (voice and
      book/protocol) to do any duties by request in the meantime.

      Dori



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From bear_necessities at telus.net  Wed Aug  3 10:55:58 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:55:58 -0700
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A blushing and giggling Dori is NOT a pretty sight!!

Dori 



From bear_necessities at telus.net  Wed Aug  3 10:59:01 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 10:59:01 -0700
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Her Seneschalness wrote:
> In order to give Zuul and his buddies a chance to serve the great shire of 
> Hartwood, and since Dori is willing to compete against him for the 
> position, we can publish the position as open.  Since Dori was my deputy 
> herald I hope she can step in until then.
>
> And may the better being win.  If Zuul is in fact a heraldic monster does 
> that give him an unfair advantage?

Thank you, Your Seneschalness!  I am most happy to fill in in the mean time.

Zuul has some.... personality issues.  And his inability work well with 
others gives *me* an advantage!  Dang....  I promised myself to keep my 
campaigning clean...

Dori 




From jademagpye at gmail.com  Wed Aug  3 11:26:04 2011
From: jademagpye at gmail.com (Amber)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:26:04 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Herald's Position
Message-ID: <195B16B40F214968836B22068AD44F11@Sable>

Greetings to All Those Who Dwell in these Fair Lands

There was a good turn out for our general meeting and many stayed to picnic in the park next the hall.  I did espy his lordship Kjarten pacing the park with an eye to holding an event there; the site was that fine.

We have approval for our two events this summer; Armada, coming up this weekend and Straight N Arrow to follow the succeeding weekend.  

The position of Chatelaine was filled by Lady Elspeth Aylena of Alnwick who may be newly come to the shire but is wise in her work having been both Lionsgate and Kingdom Chatelaine.

I have resigned as your Herald to serve as Seneschal and so we have need of a new Herald.  HL Doireann has volunteered and has sent in a letter of application.  If anyone else may be interested in the job, please sent to this list your name and qualifications.  As with all officer positions, you must be a member of the society and of legal age.

We have an very experienced council right now and that is marvellous but I would like point out that depending on a few people is not healthy.  We need fresh minds and a goodly pool of volunteers to keep Hartwood growing and productive.  If you have an interest in any office, even if you may not be in a position to serve at this time, speak to the officer and see about training as a deputy.  Don?t be shy, most of your officers don?t bite.

Marina la Pica
p s I will be handing out a cookie to those of Hartwood who are showing a pennon or gonfalon in our colours at Tir Righ Coronet.  A homemade cookie (Lizzie owes me).


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From doerksen at island.net  Wed Aug  3 15:32:20 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:32:20 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] The Real Hartwood Meeting Minutes?
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LQVCnaaa3WTL0+GR6JWRzJjeowE6cTzY=eRvgsf+38ZEg@mail.gmail.com>
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Dang. Made me laugh out loud. At work. How embarrassing.

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Wed 03 Aug 2011 10:20:17 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>:

> Unless Zuul applies; then there will be two heralds and then the end of the
> world.
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is no other herald; there is only Dori.
>> ...
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca
>>>>
>>>> Or Dori steps in as the council-appointed deputy, does the job pro-tem
>>>> until the process is properly completed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James




From bear_necessities at telus.net  Wed Aug  3 16:09:06 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:09:06 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood]
	=?windows-1252?q?The_Real_Hartwood_Meeting_Minutes=99?=
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Scathach wrote:
> Unless Zuul applies; then there will be two heralds and then the end of 
> the
> world.

Don't worry... I've got this...

Dori 




From wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au  Wed Aug  3 17:41:39 2011
From: wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au (Edward Verhagen)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:41:39 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Hartwood] Herald's Position
In-Reply-To: <195B16B40F214968836B22068AD44F11@Sable>
Message-ID: <1312418499.74577.YahooMailClassic@web125709.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Oh, please post Zuul's aplication!

--- On Thu, 4/8/11, Amber <jademagpye at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Amber <jademagpye at gmail.com>
Subject: [Hartwood] Herald's Position
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
Received: Thursday, 4 August, 2011, 4:26 AM





Greetings to All Those Who Dwell in these Fair Lands
?
There was a good turn out for our general meeting and many stayed to picnic in the park next the hall.? I did espy his lordship Kjarten pacing the park with an eye to holding an event there; the site was that fine.
?
We have approval for our two events this summer; Armada, coming up this weekend and Straight N Arrow to follow the succeeding weekend.? 
?
The position of Chatelaine was filled by Lady Elspeth Aylena of Alnwick who may be newly come to the shire but is wise in her work having been both Lionsgate and Kingdom Chatelaine.
?
I have resigned as your Herald to serve as Seneschal and so we have need of a new Herald.? HL Doireann has volunteered and has sent in a letter of application.? If anyone else may be interested in the job, please sent to this list your name and qualifications.? As with all officer positions, you must be a member of the society and of legal age.
?
We have an very experienced council right now and that is marvellous but I would like point out that depending on a few people is not healthy.? We need fresh minds and a goodly pool of volunteers to keep Hartwood growing and productive.? If you have an interest in any office, even if you may not be in a position to serve at this time, speak to the officer and see about training as a deputy.? Don?t be shy, most of your officers don?t bite.
?
Marina la Pica
p s I will be handing out a cookie to those of Hartwood who are showing a pennon or gonfalon in our colours at Tir Righ Coronet.? A homemade cookie (Lizzie owes me).
?
?
?
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From bear_necessities at telus.net  Wed Aug  3 19:30:05 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:30:05 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Application for office of herald
Message-ID: <FEB85BF6EA8B4DBB94F4BA33E41AFEBB@MorelPC>

Greetings Unto the Populace of the Shire of Hartwood

Please consider this my SCA resume for the office of herald to the Shire of
Hartwood.

I have been in the SCA for 13 years.

I served as the branch herald for Cragmere from May 1999 until January 2006,
and served after that as deputy to our next branch herald, HL Charles le
Verdier.

In my first few years in the SCA, I learned from and eventually helped, the
An Tir College of Heralds through their email list and Heraldic Symposia,
finally becoming a Kingdom Deputy Herald.

In May 2002, I accepted the office of Black Stag Herald - Black Lion's
Educational Deputy - and ended my tenure in October 2005. In that time, I
arranged and ran three An Tir Heraldic Symposia.

I recently finished my tenure as Black Bear Herald, Educational Deputy to
Silver Yale, Principal Herald of Tir Righ.  During this tenure, I organized
and ran the first Tir Righ Heraldic Symposium, held in April 2010.

I have earned my Magistrae Ithra teaching Introduction To Heraldry, and have
also taught Designing Your Device, and the core class Basic Heraldry.

Thank you for your consideration.

Yours In Service,
Doireann Dechti
 




From susanhudema at shaw.ca  Wed Aug  3 20:06:16 2011
From: susanhudema at shaw.ca (Susan Hudema)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:06:16 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] You have been unsubscribed from the Hartwood mailing
	list
References: <mailman.62.1312421105.19390.hartwood_hartwood.tirrigh.org@hartwood.tirrigh.org>
Message-ID: <ED03037750A4474F8E1BFDB45027B89C@SUSANWORK>

Greetings Web Mistress,
I'm not sure what happened but somehow I have been unsubscribed from the 
Hartwood mailing list. Please re-subscribe me as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Sara Hawthorne

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hartwood-bounces at hartwood.tirrigh.org>
To: <susanhudema at shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:25 PM
Subject: You have been unsubscribed from the Hartwood mailing list


>
> 




From bear_necessities at telus.net  Wed Aug  3 20:23:10 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:23:10 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] You have been unsubscribed from the Hartwood
	mailinglist
In-Reply-To: <ED03037750A4474F8E1BFDB45027B89C@SUSANWORK>
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> Greetings Web Mistress,
> I'm not sure what happened but somehow I have been unsubscribed from the 
> Hartwood mailing list. Please re-subscribe me as soon as possible.
> Thanks,
> Sara Hawthorne

That's just from the former list, don't worry, you're still here!

Dori 



From doerksen at island.net  Wed Aug  3 22:27:13 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:27:13 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Hartwood eList arrangements!
Message-ID: <20110803222713.15972n2wjtxkrru9@webmail.uniserve.com>

Greetings, all!

By now you've noticed some monkeying around with the Hartwood email  
list. You might be thinking you were unsubscribed to the Hartwood  
list, but this is not the case.

Instead, you have been subscribed to two: the first, which, due to my  
unfamiliarity with the system, did not function properly from the  
administrative end; and the second, which does. And that second list  
is the one which you are now reading.

I am sorry for any confusion this may've caused. It was unintentional.

Please update your bookmarks now! The new address is  
hartwood at tirrigh.org. Delete the other one, which looks the same, but  
stutters on Hartwood!


still yours,
Halima al-Rakkasa
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/





From wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au  Thu Aug  4 05:31:45 2011
From: wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au (Edward Verhagen)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:31:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Hartwood] You have been unsubscribed from the Hartwood mailing
	list
In-Reply-To: <ED03037750A4474F8E1BFDB45027B89C@SUSANWORK>
Message-ID: <1312461105.84823.YahooMailClassic@web125720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Me also.
Please , I would like to resubsrcibe, send me instructions.
Edward

--- On Thu, 4/8/11, Susan Hudema <susanhudema at shaw.ca> wrote:


From: Susan Hudema <susanhudema at shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: [Hartwood] You have been unsubscribed from the Hartwood mailing list
To: hartwood-bounces at hartwood.tirrigh.org, hartwood at tirrigh.org
Received: Thursday, 4 August, 2011, 1:06 PM


Greetings Web Mistress,
I'm not sure what happened but somehow I have been unsubscribed from the Hartwood mailing list. Please re-subscribe me as soon as possible.
Thanks,
Sara Hawthorne

----- Original Message ----- From: <hartwood-bounces at hartwood.tirrigh.org>
To: <susanhudema at shaw.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 6:25 PM
Subject: You have been unsubscribed from the Hartwood mailing list


> 
> 


_______________________________________________
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Hartwood at tirrigh.org
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From redshasta at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 08:51:41 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:51:41 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
Message-ID: <CA+LO9LTaW6rjWdFDneMF-OPbBNNxZRbuSVxi7AY9X-nZbpickQ@mail.gmail.com>

To the Shire of Hartwood,



I, Zuul the Gatekeeper of Gozer, wish to submit my application for Herald at
this time.  Admittedly, I have much less experience than others of this
Shire, having confined my period activities to being the object of worship
of various Mesopotamians, Sumerians and Hittites as early as 6000 BC.  As
someone well-versed in early human history, I believe I bring valuable
experience to the position of Hartwood?s Herald.



Until my re-emergence in 1984 to function as the second half of the pair of
demigods who can open the door to allow Gozer the Gozerian access to the
human world, I have been largely absent from this dimension.  However, I do
not think of this as a negative, but rather as a plus.  Due to my absence, I
have not absorbed any erroneous ideas about SCA heraldry or period naming
practices and can bring the freshness of new eyes to the position, along
with the heady sulphuric smell of the underworld.



My abilities to possess a human form can be very convenient when dealing
with Heraldic ?red tape? and getting names and devices pushed through
quickly.  With my demonic soul inhabiting that of a top-ranking Herald in
the SCA when I am not fulfilling duties that require me to be in corporeal
form within Hartwood, I can gloss over deviancies from period nomenclature
and less-than-three-points-of-difference in heraldic submissions.  Some may
say that my methods are ?unchivalric?, but I view them more as ?strategic?.



Other skills and abilities I bring to the position of Herald are my beast
form of Terror Dog, my wall-destruction capabilities and my ability to
assist in opening portals to other dimensions.  While they are not
specifically supporting the position of Herald, they do help get Council
moving along the lines of the schedule.
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From doerksen at island.net  Thu Aug  4 09:57:35 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 09:57:35 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] No longer "Re:  You have been unsubscribed ..."
In-Reply-To: <1312461105.84823.YahooMailClassic@web125720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312461105.84823.YahooMailClassic@web125720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110804095735.17856ggfp3qxc29r@webmail.uniserve.com>

It's done! You're here!

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Thu 04 Aug 2011 05:31:45 AM PDT, quoting Edward Verhagen  
<wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au>:

> Me also.
> Please , I would like to resubsrcibe, send me instructions.
> Edward
>
> --- On Thu, 4/8/11, Susan Hudema <susanhudema at shaw.ca> wrote:
> From: Susan Hudema <susanhudema at shaw.ca>
>
> Greetings Web Mistress,
> I'm not sure what happened but somehow I have been unsubscribed from  
> the Hartwood mailing list. Please re-subscribe me as soon as possible.
> Thanks,
> Sara Hawthorne




From kay_sami at msn.com  Thu Aug  4 10:04:29 2011
From: kay_sami at msn.com (Trina M)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:04:29 +0000
Subject: [Hartwood] subscribe
Message-ID: <BAY145-W61DB1FD5D03475376D19B3FF3D0@phx.gbl>




request to subscribe

love and light, Trina
 		 	   		  
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From redshasta at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 11:06:26 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:06:26 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] subscribe
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W61DB1FD5D03475376D19B3FF3D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W61DB1FD5D03475376D19B3FF3D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CA+LO9LRuz1Q47G=9MpkTKvagH=2KCBP0x7UxaYAag5PTT4zHLw@mail.gmail.com>

I told Trina to do this, because I don't have access to subscribe her... did
I get her here?

Julie

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Trina M <kay_sami at msn.com> wrote:

>  request to subscribe
>
> love and light, Trina
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hartwood mailing list
> Hartwood at tirrigh.org
> http://mail.tirrigh.org/mailman/listinfo/hartwood_tirrigh.org
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From kay_sami at msn.com  Thu Aug  4 11:45:56 2011
From: kay_sami at msn.com (Trina M)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:45:56 +0000
Subject: [Hartwood] Back to the SCA
Message-ID: <BAY145-W614D0F96913C60FBE5066FF3D0@phx.gbl>


Hello there i am fairly new to the SCA, was out and about last year but havent done anything since may 2010. Looking to get back involved in the local group. But I do not drive so that makes it even harder for me to attend certain events. (out in Coombs)  I am also interested in the book the know world handbook if anyone has one to borrow or buy. Hope to hear from you soon
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From wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au  Thu Aug  4 12:31:53 2011
From: wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au (Edward Verhagen)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:31:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LTaW6rjWdFDneMF-OPbBNNxZRbuSVxi7AY9X-nZbpickQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1312486313.30486.YahooMailClassic@web125720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Wish I was an officer to vote for Zuul, sorry Dori, but Zuul does have some abilities that you do not.
Edward

om> wrote:


From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
Received: Friday, 5 August, 2011, 1:51 AM



To the Shire of Hartwood,
?
I, Zuul the Gatekeeper of Gozer, wish to submit my application for Herald at this time.? Admittedly, I have much less experience than others of this Shire, having confined my period activities to being the object of worship of various Mesopotamians, Sumerians and Hittites as early as 6000 BC.? As someone well-versed in early human history, I believe I bring valuable experience to the position of Hartwood?s Herald.? 
?
Until my re-emergence in 1984 to function as the second half of the pair of demigods who can open the door to allow Gozer the Gozerian access to the human world, I have been largely absent from this dimension.? However, I do not think of this as a negative, but rather as a plus.? Due to my absence, I have not absorbed any erroneous ideas about SCA heraldry or period naming practices and can bring the freshness of new eyes to the position, along with the heady sulphuric smell of the underworld.
?
My abilities to possess a human form can be very convenient when dealing with Heraldic ?red tape? and getting names and devices pushed through quickly.? With my demonic soul inhabiting that of a top-ranking Herald in the SCA when I am not fulfilling duties that require me to be in corporeal form within Hartwood, I can gloss over deviancies from period nomenclature and less-than-three-points-of-difference in heraldic submissions.? Some may say that my methods are ?unchivalric?, but I view them more as ?strategic?.
?
Other skills and abilities I bring to the position of Herald are my beast form of Terror Dog, my wall-destruction capabilities and my ability to assist in opening portals to other dimensions.? While they are not specifically supporting the position of Herald, they do help get Council moving along the lines of the schedule.
?
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From wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au  Thu Aug  4 12:36:20 2011
From: wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au (Edward Verhagen)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LTaW6rjWdFDneMF-OPbBNNxZRbuSVxi7AY9X-nZbpickQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1312486580.69188.YahooMailClassic@web125701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Maybe forward this aplication to Kingdom?

a at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
Received: Friday, 5 August, 2011, 1:51 AM



To the Shire of Hartwood,
?
I, Zuul the Gatekeeper of Gozer, wish to submit my application for Herald at this time.? Admittedly, I have much less experience than others of this Shire, having confined my period activities to being the object of worship of various Mesopotamians, Sumerians and Hittites as early as 6000 BC.? As someone well-versed in early human history, I believe I bring valuable experience to the position of Hartwood?s Herald.? 
?
Until my re-emergence in 1984 to function as the second half of the pair of demigods who can open the door to allow Gozer the Gozerian access to the human world, I have been largely absent from this dimension.? However, I do not think of this as a negative, but rather as a plus.? Due to my absence, I have not absorbed any erroneous ideas about SCA heraldry or period naming practices and can bring the freshness of new eyes to the position, along with the heady sulphuric smell of the underworld.
?
My abilities to possess a human form can be very convenient when dealing with Heraldic ?red tape? and getting names and devices pushed through quickly.? With my demonic soul inhabiting that of a top-ranking Herald in the SCA when I am not fulfilling duties that require me to be in corporeal form within Hartwood, I can gloss over deviancies from period nomenclature and less-than-three-points-of-difference in heraldic submissions.? Some may say that my methods are ?unchivalric?, but I view them more as ?strategic?.
?
Other skills and abilities I bring to the position of Herald are my beast form of Terror Dog, my wall-destruction capabilities and my ability to assist in opening portals to other dimensions.? While they are not specifically supporting the position of Herald, they do help get Council moving along the lines of the schedule.
?
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From doerksen at island.net  Thu Aug  4 13:02:35 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:02:35 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
In-Reply-To: <1312486313.30486.YahooMailClassic@web125720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1312486313.30486.YahooMailClassic@web125720.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20110804130235.1130243htmb8fr2z@webmail.uniserve.com>

At the Shire level (I don't know about higher) you do not need to be  
an officer to vote for a new officer... though being -in- the branch  
does count in your favour!

Halima
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http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Thu 04 Aug 2011 12:31:53 PM PDT, quoting Edward Verhagen  
<wobbleygoose at yahoo.com.au>:

> Wish I was an officer to vote for Zuul, sorry Dori, but Zuul does  
> have some abilities that you do not.
> Edward
>
> om> wrote:
>
>
> From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
>
> To the Shire of Hartwood,
> ?
> I, Zuul the Gatekeeper of Gozer, wish to submit my application for  
> Herald at this time.? Admittedly, I have much less experience than  
> others of this Shire, having confined my period activities to being  
> the object of worship of various Mesopotamians, Sumerians and  
> Hittites as early as 6000 BC.? As someone well-versed in early human  
> history, I believe I bring valuable experience to the position of  
> Hartwood?s Herald.?
> ?
> Until my re-emergence in 1984 to function as the second half of the  
> pair of demigods who can open the door to allow Gozer the Gozerian  
> access to the human world, I have been largely absent from this  
> dimension.? However, I do not think of this as a negative, but  
> rather as a plus.? Due to my absence, I have not absorbed any  
> erroneous ideas about SCA heraldry or period naming practices and  
> can bring the freshness of new eyes to the position, along with the  
> heady sulphuric smell of the underworld.
> ?
> My abilities to possess a human form can be very convenient when  
> dealing with Heraldic ?red tape? and getting names and devices  
> pushed through quickly.? With my demonic soul inhabiting that of a  
> top-ranking Herald in the SCA when I am not fulfilling duties that  
> require me to be in corporeal form within Hartwood, I can gloss over  
> deviancies from period nomenclature and  
> less-than-three-points-of-difference in heraldic submissions.? Some  
> may say that my methods are ?unchivalric?, but I view them more as  
> ?strategic?.
> ?
> Other skills and abilities I bring to the position of Herald are my  
> beast form of Terror Dog, my wall-destruction capabilities and my  
> ability to assist in opening portals to other dimensions.? While  
> they are not specifically supporting the position of Herald, they do  
> help get Council moving along the lines of the schedule.




From doerksen at island.net  Thu Aug  4 13:12:38 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 13:12:38 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] subscribe
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LRuz1Q47G=9MpkTKvagH=2KCBP0x7UxaYAag5PTT4zHLw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY145-W61DB1FD5D03475376D19B3FF3D0@phx.gbl>
	<CA+LO9LRuz1Q47G=9MpkTKvagH=2KCBP0x7UxaYAag5PTT4zHLw@mail.gmail.com>
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Done!

Halima
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http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Thu 04 Aug 2011 11:06:26 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>:

> I told Trina to do this, because I don't have access to subscribe her... did
> I get her here?
>
> Julie
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Trina M <kay_sami at msn.com> wrote:
>
>>  request to subscribe
>>
>> love and light, Trina
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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>>
>> Website: http://hartwood.tirrigh.org/
>>
>





From bear_necessities at telus.net  Thu Aug  4 20:11:46 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 20:11:46 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LTaW6rjWdFDneMF-OPbBNNxZRbuSVxi7AY9X-nZbpickQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+LO9LTaW6rjWdFDneMF-OPbBNNxZRbuSVxi7AY9X-nZbpickQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D1806B4CF3F44E4890629DFCB9E32AFC@MorelPC>

The competition for Hartwood Herald is fierce.  I mean literally FIERCE. 
With big teeth, claws, and scary eyes....  And that's just me - the other 
guy is even worse!!

Dori

> I, Zuul the Gatekeeper of Gozer, wish to submit my application for Herald 
> at
> this time.  Admittedly, I have much less experience than others of this
> Shire, having confined my period activities to being the object of worship
> of various Mesopotamians, Sumerians and Hittites as early as 6000 BC.  As
> someone well-versed in early human history, I believe I bring valuable
> experience to the position of Hartwood?s Herald.
>
>
>
> Until my re-emergence in 1984 to function as the second half of the pair 
> of
> demigods who can open the door to allow Gozer the Gozerian access to the
> human world, I have been largely absent from this dimension.  However, I 
> do
> not think of this as a negative, but rather as a plus.  Due to my absence, 
> I
> have not absorbed any erroneous ideas about SCA heraldry or period naming
> practices and can bring the freshness of new eyes to the position, along
> with the heady sulphuric smell of the underworld.
>
>
>
> My abilities to possess a human form can be very convenient when dealing
> with Heraldic ?red tape? and getting names and devices pushed through
> quickly.  With my demonic soul inhabiting that of a top-ranking Herald in
> the SCA when I am not fulfilling duties that require me to be in corporeal
> form within Hartwood, I can gloss over deviancies from period nomenclature
> and less-than-three-points-of-difference in heraldic submissions.  Some 
> may
> say that my methods are ?unchivalric?, but I view them more as ?strategic?.
>
>
>
> Other skills and abilities I bring to the position of Herald are my beast
> form of Terror Dog, my wall-destruction capabilities and my ability to
> assist in opening portals to other dimensions.  While they are not
> specifically supporting the position of Herald, they do help get Council
> moving along the lines of the schedule.
>



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>
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From jademagpye at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 22:38:49 2011
From: jademagpye at gmail.com (Amber)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 22:38:49 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald
In-Reply-To: <D1806B4CF3F44E4890629DFCB9E32AFC@MorelPC>
References: <CA+LO9LTaW6rjWdFDneMF-OPbBNNxZRbuSVxi7AY9X-nZbpickQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<D1806B4CF3F44E4890629DFCB9E32AFC@MorelPC>
Message-ID: <DD3C27AA3F9A41D78269DD74B1E6E8CD@Sable>

Yikes, I'm glad Zuul didn't have a hankering for the Seneschal's position, 
I'd have been toast or possibly roast given his heritage.  On the other 
hand, officer reports would really be on time every time with that guy.

Marina

-----Original Message----- 
From: Morel Carr Zupanic
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 8:11 PM
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [Hartwood] Zuul's application for Hartwood Herald

The competition for Hartwood Herald is fierce.  I mean literally FIERCE.
With big teeth, claws, and scary eyes....  And that's just me - the other
guy is even worse!!

Dori




From jademagpye at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 23:17:44 2011
From: jademagpye at gmail.com (Amber)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 23:17:44 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Back to the SCA
In-Reply-To: <BAY145-W614D0F96913C60FBE5066FF3D0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY145-W614D0F96913C60FBE5066FF3D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <15CF2D2914E34277A5A1E78340DB312C@Sable>

Greetings M?lady Rowen

I am pleased to hear you are returning to the group.  We are a widely spread shire and transport can be a problem.  You might be able to arrange a ride with others in your area if they knew where you are. 

We are also using Skype to meet online at various times.  Since we only have 4 face to face meetings we need to augment that with the Skype meetings.  Maitresse Cecille gathers the group from Courtenay/Comox area and I have the Port Alberni bunch at my place.  I know Scathach has the capability in Nanaimo.  Or you could attend from your own computer.  Meetings will be posted on this list.  I know Maitresse Cecille plans to have some A&S meetings on line.

As to the KWH, the new edition is out and available thru the Stock Clerk at the sca.org site.  Look under official sca publications.

Welcome to Hartwood.  I hope to see you at one of our events.

Marina la Pica
Hartwood Seneschal


From: Trina M 
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 11:45 AM
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org 
Subject: [Hartwood] Back to the SCA

Hello there i am fairly new to the SCA, was out and about last year but havent done anything since may 2010. Looking to get back involved in the local group. But I do not drive so that makes it even harder for me to attend certain events. (out in Coombs)  I am also interested in the book the know world handbook if anyone has one to borrow or buy. Hope to hear from you soon 

Rowen




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From redshasta at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 00:47:13 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 00:47:13 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Coronet music video
Message-ID: <CA+LO9LQJEPwnQ86Pie5sE0KZGK8PF6YK4o0H0R947pKVNwTn4g@mail.gmail.com>

I have spent some time composing this filk, sung to the tune of Katy Perry's
"Last Friday Night" and think it would be hilarious (and great publicity for
the Island groups) to make it into a fun music video.

However, this would require a *lot* of cooperation!  What do you all think?
 The video would be family friendly, as opposed to the, um, adult activities
depicted in the official video (below).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlyXNRrsk4A

Armour?s lying on my bed

There?s a pounding in my head

Garb is all over the yurt

Oh how much my body hurts

Need some coffee yesterday

Don?t know what that herald says

I?ve got to find a different sport

It?s almost the time for Court



In that last big fight

I junk shot that knight

I?m screwed

Oh well

I?m all black and blue

And I?m sure I?ll never rule



Damn



Last Coronet

Yeah we went out and we fought

And we took too many shots

?til the marshalls made us stop



Last Coronet

Yeah we fought with rapier

We aimed for the best archer

And the kids did some boffer



Last Coronet

We sang round the Bardic fire

All the Baronies and Shires

While we passed a skin of mead



Last Coronet

We gathered to admire

Others? medieval attire-is

That OOP?



This Coronet

Fight them all again

This Coronet

Kill them all again



I think I?m seeing pretty lights

Don?t know what to tell my knight

I can?t find my Roman shield

Might have left it on the field

Tore my favourite Norse tunic

Hope I can sew it up quick

Someone smashed me in the grill

That was such an epic kill



Guess the blow I dealt

Enraged that white belt

He?s mad

Oh well

He?s gonna beat me up

?Cause my polearm hit his cup



Damn



Last Coronet

Yeah we danced Sellingers Round

With the guy that will be crowned

Who beat us into the ground



Last Coronet

Yeah we did embroidery

Discussed linen versus tweed

And each other?s noble deeds



Last Coronet

We showed off our A&S

Our Elizabethan dress

Then brought out Italian Ren



Last Coronet

Yeah they need some volunteers

Since the last ones disappeared

Come help at Gate



This Coronet
Do it all again
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From doerksen at island.net  Fri Aug  5 12:04:57 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:04:57 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] A&S - something to think about...
Message-ID: <20110805120457.213715hq4cndeyft@webmail.uniserve.com>

I don't know anyone insane enough to try this...

http://artsandsciences50.org/index.html


Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/





From doerksen at island.net  Mon Aug  8 13:37:07 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 13:37:07 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] I had fun!
Message-ID: <20110808133707.13590vhqsckdgu0j@webmail.uniserve.com>

I must say thanks to His Lordship Kjartan kraka for organizing The  
Hartwood Armada, and to Her Ladyship Doireann Dechti for all the  
behind-the-scenes work. It was a delight to see our Ban-Tanist Lenora  
grace our event, and Master James (archery! Yay!), Her Excellency  
Glynis, Her Excellency Janet, His Excellency Lochlan... all these and  
more travelled from Seagirt to see us! I thank you from the depths of  
my heart; you are an inspiration to us all.

Thanks to -everyone- who attended! And to Her Ladyship Reann and to  
milady Cunegonda for their share-ables. And to Reann for instigating  
all the bardic activities around the fire both Friday and Saturday  
nights. And to everyone who spent a little time at gate, both those  
who stepped in as gate-keepers (Kjartan, Reann, and... oops... who'd I  
miss?) and those who stayed to visit (tell stories, share their  
needlework, keep company).

I loved all the discussions that happened throughout the weekend, and  
the food planning that came out of nowhere, and the dreams for the  
future of the Shire.

It was all such a pleasure to work and play with you!

Halima al-Rakkasa
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http://www.island.net/~doerksen/





From j_amazon at telus.net  Mon Aug  8 15:11:01 2011
From: j_amazon at telus.net (Jamie)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:11:01 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] I had fun!
In-Reply-To: <20110808133707.13590vhqsckdgu0j@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110808133707.13590vhqsckdgu0j@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <FE7FECEC-29D2-4042-AA54-8BBC0D69CA72@telus.net>

Wow ! You took the words right out of my mouth, but I have a few to add.

Thank-you to HL Halima for running gate and for all the filling in  
where it needed filling in.

Thank-you to the marshals for coming all the way up island to marshal  
fighting.

And to Lord Charles for a really fun archery shoot.

Thank-you to the whole event team and to everyone for coming and  
making it a really fun event.

Kjartan
autocrat for Armada
protege to Baroness Theocharista


On Aug 8, 2011, at 1:37 PM, doerksen at island.net wrote:

> I must say thanks to His Lordship Kjartan kraka for organizing The  
> Hartwood Armada, and to Her Ladyship Doireann Dechti for all the  
> behind-the-scenes work. It was a delight to see our Ban-Tanist  
> Lenora grace our event, and Master James (archery! Yay!), Her  
> Excellency Glynis, Her Excellency Janet, His Excellency Lochlan...  
> all these and more travelled from Seagirt to see us! I thank you  
> from the depths of my heart; you are an inspiration to us all.
>
> Thanks to -everyone- who attended! And to Her Ladyship Reann and to  
> milady Cunegonda for their share-ables. And to Reann for  
> instigating all the bardic activities around the fire both Friday  
> and Saturday nights. And to everyone who spent a little time at  
> gate, both those who stepped in as gate-keepers (Kjartan, Reann,  
> and... oops... who'd I miss?) and those who stayed to visit (tell  
> stories, share their needlework, keep company).
>
> I loved all the discussions that happened throughout the weekend,  
> and the food planning that came out of nowhere, and the dreams for  
> the future of the Shire.
>
> It was all such a pleasure to work and play with you!
>
> Halima al-Rakkasa
> -- 
> http://www.island.net/~doerksen/
>
>




From j_amazon at telus.net  Mon Aug  8 15:13:58 2011
From: j_amazon at telus.net (Jamie)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:13:58 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Lost at Armada
Message-ID: <9303BD7E-0795-44AE-8D04-6F838B265C22@telus.net>

Well, found really :

wooden bowl

tan coloured ceramic cup

oak leaf pin

green folding chair

If anything belongs to you, please contact me for it's return.

Kjartan
autocrat for Armada
protege to Baroness Theocharista



From j_amazon at telus.net  Mon Aug  8 15:34:26 2011
From: j_amazon at telus.net (Jamie)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 15:34:26 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] White Court Yule
Message-ID: <FDBF61D0-6958-46FA-820A-F9C4D260B434@telus.net>

Greetings One and All

Dec. 3 , 2011 3pm in the Shire of Hartwood ( a more exact location to  
follow )

I know this is a long way off but I wanted everyone to have a chance  
to prepare. The colours will be those of the banner we are all under.  
White and Green. It is traditional to wear garb in there colours, so  
new garb. Yeah !

We are planning a hearty wintery feast and will soon be selling  
tickets well ahead of the feast. There will be a limited number and I  
will let you know as soon as they are available.

A&S contests will be announced soon.
More info to follow.

Thank-you,

Kjartan kraka
autocrat for Yule
protege to Baroness Theocharista





From jademagpye at gmail.com  Mon Aug  8 19:20:11 2011
From: jademagpye at gmail.com (Amber)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 19:20:11 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] A&S - something to think about...
In-Reply-To: <20110805120457.213715hq4cndeyft@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110805120457.213715hq4cndeyft@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <80998EA1AF404DCCBA512616CAD3619D@Sable>

As we are just hearing about it now, there are only 44 months to complete 50 
projects.  That said, there are categories for group projects for example a 
shire making 50 pennons or coptic bound books between them all.  Much more a 
doable goal.
There is room for discussion with our A&S Mistress I think.

I checked out the site and the last posting was from 2008.  Do we still not 
have a coordinator in An Tir?  Colour me curious.

Marina

-----Original Message----- 
From: doerksen at island.net
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:04 PM
To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
Subject: [Hartwood] A&S - something to think about...

I don't know anyone insane enough to try this...

http://artsandsciences50.org/index.html


Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/



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From doerksen at island.net  Mon Aug  8 22:55:54 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 22:55:54 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] A&S - something to think about...
In-Reply-To: <80998EA1AF404DCCBA512616CAD3619D@Sable>
References: <20110805120457.213715hq4cndeyft@webmail.uniserve.com>
	<80998EA1AF404DCCBA512616CAD3619D@Sable>
Message-ID: <20110808225554.580223z9jmbrs4bu@webmail.uniserve.com>

I'm sorry I didn't think to mention this sooner; I've been reading a  
few blogs of people recording their plans, process and progress for  
the last couple of years. I am in absolute awe of their drive, and a  
little envious that I don't feel settled enough to join them on this  
journey.

There is an email contact for the overall challenge, on the website;  
you could write to check on the status of An Tir's coordinator, Marina.

Halima, who thinks Argolia may be one of them...
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Mon 08 Aug 2011 07:20:11 PM PDT, quoting Amber <jademagpye at gmail.com>:

> As we are just hearing about it now, there are only 44 months to  
> complete 50 projects.  That said, there are categories for group  
> projects for example a shire making 50 pennons or coptic bound books  
> between them all.  Much more a doable goal.
> There is room for discussion with our A&S Mistress I think.
>
> I checked out the site and the last posting was from 2008.  Do we  
> still not have a coordinator in An Tir?  Colour me curious.
>
> Marina
>
> -----Original Message----- From: doerksen at island.net
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:04 PM
> To: hartwood at tirrigh.org
> Subject: [Hartwood] A&S - something to think about...
>
> I don't know anyone insane enough to try this...
>
> http://artsandsciences50.org/index.html
>
>
> Halima
> -- 
> http://www.island.net/~doerksen/





From susanhudema at shaw.ca  Tue Aug  9 19:44:37 2011
From: susanhudema at shaw.ca (Susan Hudema)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 19:44:37 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] children's activities at the Straight N' Arrow
Message-ID: <26213317F97D4D73B503EE88B219254F@SUSANWORK>

ATTENTION ALL CHILDREN 12 AND UNDER
 WHO ARE ATTENDING THIS YEAR'S HARTWOOD RAVEN'S WAR (STRAIGHT N' ARROW)



CONTESTS: *

-Archery (Children 5yrs. and over)        
Shoot the apples on the target tree for points. Our Archery Marshal has children's equipment and will oversee this event.
Time: August 13th. 9am (Sorry Day Trippers but regular Archery starts at 10am.)

-Obstacle Course- Timed event (Rob from the Rich and give to the Poor!)
Time: Run the course any time between 10am and noon.

-Colouring Contest (different age categories) Colour the Archer.
Time: Entries accepted until 4pm.

* All contests have prizes.

-Dragon Hunt- Catch the wily dragon and he will lead you to his treasure! (To be shared by all.)

Other activities include:
- Bean Bag Toss
-Drawing/Colouring
-Kubb
-Board Games


As/per SCA rules all children's activities must be supervised by two adults. All volunteers gratefully accepted.

ADULTS!! Come and try The Little John Challenge! (If the weather is hot you might lose on purpose!)




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From canzonet3 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 10 21:41:06 2011
From: canzonet3 at gmail.com (canzonet3)
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 21:41:06 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] back on-line
Message-ID: <CACmBBWrgJ=QgDUTzNqNnV4bauFG536xi5=6y1k0xtU7snOzJQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings, everyone,

After a lovely, but exhausting, work week with my father, my house is
looking much better and the balcony railing is certainly more stable -
yay!   Several required projects are now completed, which have made us all
very happy around here :)

I've got a lot of catching up to do in my in-box here and I'll be working on
it in the coming days.  Should there be something that was urgent, please
resend so that it stands out.  I've over 150 emails to work through here...
and that's not counting Facebook or Google+.

Chat with you soon,
- Cecille.
A&S, Hartwoodshire
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From jpclark at shaw.ca  Thu Aug 11 23:44:57 2011
From: jpclark at shaw.ca (jpclark)
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:44:57 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] The Hartbeat
In-Reply-To: <CACmBBWrgJ=QgDUTzNqNnV4bauFG536xi5=6y1k0xtU7snOzJQQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACmBBWrgJ=QgDUTzNqNnV4bauFG536xi5=6y1k0xtU7snOzJQQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FEFAD7AFCC734A658B9281B6B9067F18@JeanPC>

My apologies to My Fellow Hartwoodians,

I sent out a multitude of copies of this newsletter but for some reason I missed sending it to my fellow shire mates...  I could say it must have been my anticipation of the long journey that made we forget to do it, but in all honesty, I am a tad scatterbrained at times.  Sorry.

Elizabeth Chatfeld
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From susanhudema at shaw.ca  Tue Aug 16 17:21:55 2011
From: susanhudema at shaw.ca (Susan Hudema)
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:21:55 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] children's activities
Message-ID: <E0B9B8FDCE78445EBC683DC452A82CED@SUSANWORK>

Greetings All,
   Just a note about the children's activities. Although we had only five children participate I think they all had fun (I know I did).
Contest winners:
Archery- Annika (first time archer)
Obstacle Course- Kiefer
Colour the Archer- Maria

Thanks to the parents/grandparents who helped. Thanks to HL Edward and HL Zoran for their patience and skill in teaching our two neophyte archers. I also want to thank M'Lord Seamus for being a most entertaining Dragon from his improvised costume to his spectacular fall and capture. I would like to mention the other two winners in the useable target contest: HL Zoran for his apple tree target for the children's archery (Thank You!) and I must mention that Baron James won best butt (for his cross-bow target of course!).



 




















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From redshasta at gmail.com  Wed Aug 17 20:57:05 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:57:05 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] South Hartwood (Nanaimo) A&S Night
Message-ID: <CA+LO9LQeqAruOf8G=Y9yo=86wW+uYjPCnDoS8L+xjsTP++8eZg@mail.gmail.com>

Come one, come all!  South Hartwood is hosting an A&S night!

1832B Latimer Road, Nanaimo, BC

There's plenty of parking around the house along the road. (Not in the
concrete strip in front of the house)  The entrance is on the right, around
the back.

Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 6:30 to 9:30

There's no real theme to this A&S, but Mischa will be there to talk about
fighting and I'll be working on some Norse wire weaving or maybe butchering
some cloth to make a new tunic.  Tell your friends!

Call 250-713-7985 or email me if you need more information.
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From bear_necessities at telus.net  Fri Aug 19 14:07:42 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:07:42 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Largesse for Coronet
Message-ID: <5E60A323D5F64D7EBC73C4F2620C1709@MorelPC>

Tir Righ's Coronet Tournament, hosted by Seagirt, is going to be held on 
Hartwood lands, on September 23 and 24!  By then, Ban-tanist Lenora will be 
Princess, ruling with Prince Alden.  As HL Elizabeth has stated, it would be 
wonderful if we could have a Hartwood presence!  Green and white banners 
floating on the breeze....

Presence includes presentation, and Master James has made a wonderful 
suggestion in this regard.  He has suggested that we make a chest, and fill 
it with coptic-bound books to present to Their Highnesses as largesse.  HL 
Kjartan and myself are making the pine chest, and we entreat you, our fellow 
Hartwoodians, to please make as many books as possible, so that we may fill 
it up to capacity!  We know that the artisans of Hartwood have it in you to 
meet this challenge.

Please spread the word of our need for coptic-bound books, and encourage 
each other to create and donate.

Coronet info: http://www.antir.sca.org/Upcoming/index.php?Event_ID=2753

Info and links on heraldic display - Standards and Pinsils and Pennons, Oh 
My! - http://donna.hrynkiw.net/sca/flags/

Yours In Service
Lady Doireann Dechti, GdS, SP
Acting herald of Hartwood



 




From jademagpye at gmail.com  Sun Aug 21 15:25:58 2011
From: jademagpye at gmail.com (Amber)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 15:25:58 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Largesse for Coronet
In-Reply-To: <5E60A323D5F64D7EBC73C4F2620C1709@MorelPC>
References: <5E60A323D5F64D7EBC73C4F2620C1709@MorelPC>
Message-ID: <83A5D50B31E842179834B7460B3EC6FB@Sable>

How serendipitous to have the opportunity to show off Hartwood at a Coronet 
with an Island Princess.  (Part of me wants to shower her with leis whenever 
I hear Island Princess, maybe I'm channeling a cruise ship?)  I hope very 
many of us can attend.  And for those that do, please show your spirit and 
fly not only your personal gonfalons but also Hartwood's colours. If we can 
all camp together with our flags fluttering we will make a gallant show. 
Cookie lovers know I am handing our a homemade cookie to everyone in 
Hartwood who flies our colours at Coronet.

As a shire that encompasses the majority of the island we should also have 
an impressive gift of largess for our Prince and Princess.  The coptic bound 
books is a great idea.  They take some time to learn how to do but once you 
know, they can be set up to do in an assembly line and it a good time to 
chat with friends.

I for one will be making books, I hope others will commit to making a number 
also.  We have several people who know how they are done or have taken a 
class with his excellency.  If you have the knowledge and tools to make 
books and are willing to teach others please set up a time in your local 
area.  I will host a book making session at my place, 3984 Mcbride St. Port 
Alberni on Aug. 30th from 1pm to 5 pm.

Remember that their Highnesses want to know the names of their artisans, so 
please include your name and shire on the back page or some other 
inconspicuous spot.

Our Maitress Cecille de Beumund will keep track of the bookmakers and how 
many they have completed.  Email her at canzonet3 at gmail.com to register.   I 
commit to making 10 books and I challenge others to meet or exceed my 
numbers.

Marina la Pica
in the corner, tearing up paper, so much paper.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Morel Carr Zupanic
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 2:07 PM
To: Hartwood
Subject: [Hartwood] Largesse for Coronet

Tir Righ's Coronet Tournament, hosted by Seagirt, is going to be held on
Hartwood lands, on September 23 and 24!  By then, Ban-tanist Lenora will be
Princess, ruling with Prince Alden.  As HL Elizabeth has stated, it would be
wonderful if we could have a Hartwood presence!  Green and white banners
floating on the breeze....

Presence includes presentation, and Master James has made a wonderful
suggestion in this regard.  He has suggested that we make a chest, and fill
it with coptic-bound books to present to Their Highnesses as largesse.  HL
Kjartan and myself are making the pine chest, and we entreat you, our fellow
Hartwoodians, to please make as many books as possible, so that we may fill
it up to capacity!  We know that the artisans of Hartwood have it in you to
meet this challenge.

Please spread the word of our need for coptic-bound books, and encourage
each other to create and donate.

Coronet info: http://www.antir.sca.org/Upcoming/index.php?Event_ID=2753

Info and links on heraldic display - Standards and Pinsils and Pennons, Oh
My! - http://donna.hrynkiw.net/sca/flags/

Yours In Service
Lady Doireann Dechti, GdS, SP
Acting herald of Hartwood






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From doerksen at island.net  Sun Aug 21 21:18:09 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:18:09 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Largesse for Coronet
In-Reply-To: <83A5D50B31E842179834B7460B3EC6FB@Sable>
References: <5E60A323D5F64D7EBC73C4F2620C1709@MorelPC>
	<83A5D50B31E842179834B7460B3EC6FB@Sable>
Message-ID: <20110821211809.12032hlp7tr1bwxt@webmail.uniserve.com>

Due to other pressing issues, I can only commit to 5 books at this  
time. Should events prove fortuitous, I may be able to increase that  
number.

Are we looking for any consistancy? Size of books, number of quires,  
number of sheets folded into each quire? (Quire = signature; jargon  
varies...)

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Sun 21 Aug 2011 03:25:58 PM PDT, quoting Amber <jademagpye at gmail.com>:
...
>
> Our Maitress Cecille de Beumund will keep track of the bookmakers  
> and how many they have completed.  Email her at canzonet3 at gmail.com  
> to register.   I commit to making 10 books and I challenge others to  
> meet or exceed my numbers.
>
> Marina la Pica
> in the corner, tearing up paper, so much paper.





From bear_necessities at telus.net  Tue Aug 23 23:02:33 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:02:33 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Largesse for Coronet
In-Reply-To: <20110821211809.12032hlp7tr1bwxt@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <5E60A323D5F64D7EBC73C4F2620C1709@MorelPC><83A5D50B31E842179834B7460B3EC6FB@Sable>
	<20110821211809.12032hlp7tr1bwxt@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <87AF5D22B4894144ADB21CD88C21D710@MorelPC>

Halima wrote:
> Are we looking for any consistancy? Size of books, number of quires, 
> number of sheets folded into each quire? (Quire = signature; jargon 
> varies...)

Very good questions, thank you!  The books I've seen most often are 1/4 page 
size - that's before folding - and with four quires.  The two I have in 
front of me have four sheets (eight pages) per quire.

Colors, stitch patterns, bookmarks (a string with something on the end, or a 
ribbon - attached to the spine stitching) and the like, I think should be up 
to the individual.

Dori 




From bear_necessities at telus.net  Tue Aug 23 23:04:32 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:04:32 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Largesse for Coronet
In-Reply-To: <83A5D50B31E842179834B7460B3EC6FB@Sable>
References: <5E60A323D5F64D7EBC73C4F2620C1709@MorelPC>
	<83A5D50B31E842179834B7460B3EC6FB@Sable>
Message-ID: <9E74D7C7458345AAAD42E44B83411C97@MorelPC>

Marina wrote:
> Remember that their Highnesses want to know the names of their artisans, 
> so please include your name and shire on the back page or some other 
> inconspicuous spot.

Thank you so much for adding this important information!  This is really 
important, receiving a beautiful hand-made gift without knowing who made it 
is a little frustrating.

> Our Maitress Cecille de Beumund will keep track of the bookmakers and how 
> many they have completed.  Email her at canzonet3 at gmail.com to register. 
> I commit to making 10 books and I challenge others to meet or exceed my 
> numbers.

Thank you Cecille!

> in the corner, tearing up paper, so much paper.

Bwahahaha... <cough>!

Dori 




From jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca  Tue Aug 23 23:26:51 2011
From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca (jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca)
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 23:26:51 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Largesse for Coronet
In-Reply-To: <9E74D7C7458345AAAD42E44B83411C97@MorelPC>
References: <5E60A323D5F64D7EBC73C4F2620C1709@MorelPC>
	<83A5D50B31E842179834B7460B3EC6FB@Sable>
	<9E74D7C7458345AAAD42E44B83411C97@MorelPC>
Message-ID: <213831A5D0B1414B8EDA407C23BD61D9@Tommy>

Marina wrote:
> Remember that their Highnesses want to know the names of their artisans, 
> so please include your name and shire on the back page or some other 
> inconspicuous spot.

You can write it on the back page or attach a string with a small tag with 
the info on it.


James





From doerksen at island.net  Wed Aug 24 17:48:42 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:48:42 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
Message-ID: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>

Cunegonda...? How much binder board do you have? Or maybe... Can we  
swipe some more binders and we'll recycle some more card material? I'm  
thinking of a couple of hours this weekend...

I'll also check to see if I have any utility knives with sharp-ish  
blades for cutting them to size. (I have a 12th Night sample and  
another from a Daffodil. We can measure!)

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/





From bear_necessities at telus.net  Wed Aug 24 18:05:36 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 18:05:36 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <25ACA077DD274C879089FC90E0693204@MorelPC>

Halima wrote:
> I'm  thinking of a couple of hours this weekend...

Meshing Kjartan's and my schedule to make the boxes is a priority for me. 
But, if Sunday doesn't turn into a box-making day, can I come and play with 
you for a couple of hours?  I have stuff to complete a couple of books.  I'm 
wanting to head down that day to visit the CVE too.

Dori 




From jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca  Wed Aug 24 19:29:44 2011
From: jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca (jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:29:44 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>

I use a simple table saw to cut the board to size. I do have some boards cut 
and could give a few to people if they were coming to Investiture.



James




>I'll also check to see if I have any utility knives with sharp-ish
blades for cutting them to size. (I have a 12th Night sample and
another from a Daffodil. We can measure!)




From bear_necessities at telus.net  Wed Aug 24 19:58:21 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:58:21 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
	<950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>
Message-ID: <6C71985705EA4F37B137E4A4BA0858DF@MorelPC>

James wrote:
> I use a simple table saw to cut the board to size. I do have some boards 
> cut and could give a few to people if they were coming to Investiture.

Look what you started!  I don't have a table saw - so will have to use my 
craft/utility knife.

Now to scrounge for old binders....  (I won't be at Investiture).

Dori 




From doerksen at island.net  Wed Aug 24 20:33:20 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:33:20 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
	<950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>
Message-ID: <20110824203320.85996bl76qtfb5a8@webmail.uniserve.com>

Greetings, James!

I don't have -any- table saw, but I do have utility knives. Kjartan is  
away for a bit, so there goes the only table-saw-owner I know who'd be  
up for this. I need more friends...  :(

My thanks, James, for your wonderful offer; I don't know of anyone  
here travelling down to there...

I regret (for so -many- reasons!) being unable to attend Investiture.  
Please give my best wishes Alden and Lenora, Ming and Elena, and  
Eideard and Mogg. And Caoimhe (sp?). They are all great!

Halima, who has a knife collection... (I wonder what that means...)
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Wed 24 Aug 2011 07:29:44 PM PDT, quoting jamesllewellyn at shaw.ca:

> I use a simple table saw to cut the board to size. I do have some  
> boards cut and could give a few to people if they were coming to  
> Investiture.
>
>
>
> James





From doerksen at island.net  Wed Aug 24 20:36:22 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:36:22 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <25ACA077DD274C879089FC90E0693204@MorelPC>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
	<25ACA077DD274C879089FC90E0693204@MorelPC>
Message-ID: <20110824203622.978496cx2zrb2p86@webmail.uniserve.com>

I'm good with that, Dori! Just give me call an hour or so beforehand,  
if you can; I do plan to be "at home" Sunday afternoon, and suitably  
dressed for company... ;)

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Wed 24 Aug 2011 06:05:36 PM PDT, quoting Morel Carr Zupanic  
<bear_necessities at telus.net>:

> Halima wrote:
>> I'm  thinking of a couple of hours this weekend...
>
> Meshing Kjartan's and my schedule to make the boxes is a priority  
> for me. But, if Sunday doesn't turn into a box-making day, can I  
> come and play with you for a couple of hours?  I have stuff to  
> complete a couple of books.  I'm wanting to head down that day to  
> visit the CVE too.
>
> Dori _______________________________________________





From aleyn at antir.com  Wed Aug 24 22:42:24 2011
From: aleyn at antir.com (Aleyn)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:42:24 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <20110824203320.85996bl76qtfb5a8@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com>
	<950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>
	<20110824203320.85996bl76qtfb5a8@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <4E55E0C0.8030800@antir.com>


>
> My thanks, James, for your wonderful offer; I don't know of anyone 
> here travelling down to there...
>
Sigh.. Fraid we WERE going down, but rebuilding that damn carport/deck 
has eaten every penny we could find and a lot of credit besides.

Aleyn



From redshasta at gmail.com  Thu Aug 25 09:38:44 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:38:44 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] South Hartwood A&S (wow!)
Message-ID: <CA+LO9LTusgrnGo42MR-wd71JgHM=At9YLbJ1az2tS9ORBcrPew@mail.gmail.com>

There was a HUGE turnout for Hartwood's A&S last night, including several
newer people interested in heavy fighting.  We were amazed by the number of
people coming from West Hartwood and North Hartwood, which was TERRIFIC.

We're hosting A&S every week on Wednesdays *until Coronet* for the main
purpose of creating largesse to present.  However, after Coronet, we are
probably going to drop the A&S to twice a month or so, unless extended
interest is shown in it.

One question that came up is whether Hartwood would provide refreshments at
A&S or should a donation jar be present.  After we talked about it, Mischa
and I agreed that we would rather provide refreshments ourselves and
encourage people to bring snacks or drinks instead of donations if they want
to contribute.  We don't want to make people feel that they HAVE to bring
money or refreshments to come to A&S.

Thank you all for coming!

Scathach
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From bear_necessities at telus.net  Sun Aug 28 01:17:50 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 01:17:50 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <20110824203320.85996bl76qtfb5a8@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com><950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>
	<20110824203320.85996bl76qtfb5a8@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <0E7CE1FD3DFF440D8274B05C9378599C@MorelPC>

I would like to know what kind of thread people use to bind their books, 
please.  My handout says waxed, but the books I have don't seem to be sewn 
with waxed thread.  It looks a bit thicker than upholstery thread, but isn't 
embroidery cotton.

I have purchased the wood for the box, and Eric the Millwork Guy at work cut 
the front piece for me, so that I can paint it (Tir Righ populace badge) 
before assembly.

Dori 




From doerksen at island.net  Sun Aug 28 11:01:14 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 11:01:14 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <0E7CE1FD3DFF440D8274B05C9378599C@MorelPC>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com><950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy>
	<20110824203320.85996bl76qtfb5a8@webmail.uniserve.com>
	<0E7CE1FD3DFF440D8274B05C9378599C@MorelPC>
Message-ID: <20110828110114.11894y3ttfsc6vsa@webmail.uniserve.com>

For a book that will last centuries, used heavier linen thread.  
Otherwise, use buttonhole twist or quilting thread, or else pearl  
cotton. They should last a minimum of 20 years.

The Wax helps to prevent tangling, reduces fraying, and adds a bit of  
lubricant for sewing; if you have no beeswax, I can cut a piece for  
you. And show how to wax your thread, if you don't already know how.

Excellent to hear about the box!

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/


Sun 28 Aug 2011 01:17:50 AM PDT, quoting Morel Carr Zupanic  
<bear_necessities at telus.net>:

> I would like to know what kind of thread people use to bind their  
> books, please.  My handout says waxed, but the books I have don't  
> seem to be sewn with waxed thread.  It looks a bit thicker than  
> upholstery thread, but isn't embroidery cotton.
>
> I have purchased the wood for the box, and Eric the Millwork Guy at  
> work cut the front piece for me, so that I can paint it (Tir Righ  
> populace badge) before assembly.
>
> Dori _______________________________________________
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From bear_necessities at telus.net  Sun Aug 28 13:54:06 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 13:54:06 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making materials...
In-Reply-To: <20110828110114.11894y3ttfsc6vsa@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110824174842.15693c7bd87hhaei@webmail.uniserve.com><950298DC703845B885E835B80EE773C5@Tommy><20110824203320.85996bl76qtfb5a8@webmail.uniserve.com><0E7CE1FD3DFF440D8274B05C9378599C@MorelPC>
	<20110828110114.11894y3ttfsc6vsa@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <6F4380853CD64BCD878971FE38133D24@MorelPC>

Halima wrote:
> For a book that will last centuries, used heavier linen thread. 
> Otherwise, use buttonhole twist or quilting thread, or else pearl  cotton. 
> They should last a minimum of 20 years.
>
> The Wax helps to prevent tangling, reduces fraying, and adds a bit of 
> lubricant for sewing; if you have no beeswax, I can cut a piece for  you. 
> And show how to wax your thread, if you don't already know how.

This is wonderful info, thank you!  I do have beeswax, as well as linen 
thread and pearl cotton.  I seem to remember being shown how to wax the 
thread - and thank you for confirming how over the phone.

Dori 




From doerksen at island.net  Sun Aug 28 18:44:07 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:44:07 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making Sunday!
Message-ID: <20110828184407.1286657cfh9jqajr@webmail.uniserve.com>

Well, that was fun!

Four of us had a grand time playing with paper and card and planning  
for interesting bookcovers for the box-o-books largesse project.

It was very impromptu, held at Chickadee Manor, and thoroughly  
entertaining. Everyone left with materials to do 2 books each, with  
the option of coming back for more.

Halima (that's me) will cut more card stock (cutting courtesy of a  
guillotine cutter from yesterday's garage sale), enough for 72  
small-size books (3 books per card, requiring 6 sheets of paper for 4  
quires for each book). And there is a standing offer of more  
assistance with sewing.

Hartwood!

in service,
Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/





From bear_necessities at telus.net  Sun Aug 28 18:48:54 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:48:54 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Book-making Sunday!
In-Reply-To: <20110828184407.1286657cfh9jqajr@webmail.uniserve.com>
References: <20110828184407.1286657cfh9jqajr@webmail.uniserve.com>
Message-ID: <9749057252CE489E8636EC98CEA20372@MorelPC>

You are all so awesome!!  I'm sorry I couldn't make it today, I would have 
loved to see you, and maybe get some hands-on experience.  This is 
absolutely wonderful....

Dori

Halima wrote:
> Well, that was fun!
>
> Four of us had a grand time playing with paper and card and planning  for 
> interesting bookcovers for the box-o-books largesse project.
>
> It was very impromptu, held at Chickadee Manor, and thoroughly 
> entertaining. Everyone left with materials to do 2 books each, with  the 
> option of coming back for more.
>
> Halima (that's me) will cut more card stock (cutting courtesy of a 
> guillotine cutter from yesterday's garage sale), enough for 72  small-size 
> books (3 books per card, requiring 6 sheets of paper for 4  quires for 
> each book). And there is a standing offer of more  assistance with sewing.
 




From bear_necessities at telus.net  Sun Aug 28 19:01:23 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 19:01:23 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] South Hartwood A&S (wow!)
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LTusgrnGo42MR-wd71JgHM=At9YLbJ1az2tS9ORBcrPew@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+LO9LTusgrnGo42MR-wd71JgHM=At9YLbJ1az2tS9ORBcrPew@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D454102DE7CA483FA18916FA232B4095@MorelPC>

Scathach wrote:> There was a HUGE turnout for Hartwood's A&S last night, 
including several
> newer people interested in heavy fighting.  We were amazed by the number 
> of
> people coming from West Hartwood and North Hartwood, which was TERRIFIC.
>
> We're hosting A&S every week on Wednesdays *until Coronet* for the main
> purpose of creating largesse to present.

Thank you SO much for hosting this, and working so hard on the largesse 
project - it is very, very much appreciated!

Dori 




From doerksen at island.net  Mon Aug 29 01:39:04 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 01:39:04 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Financial matter: Fwd: [SCA-Exchequers] Digest Number
	1597
Message-ID: <20110829013904.172959mqhpqxaxbc@webmail.uniserve.com>

I thought this might be of interest, as it touches on events, budgets,  
and financial committees.

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

----- Forwarded message from SCA-Exchequers at yahoogroups.com -----
     Date: 29 Aug 2011 07:42:15 -0000
     From: SCA-Exchequers at yahoogroups.com

There are 6 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1a. Financial Policy
     From: Susan Valenta
1b. Re: Financial Policy
     From: Bradley Wolf
1c. Re: Financial Policy
     From: Carolyn Richardson
1d. Re: Financial Policy
     From: jim_hannold
1e. Re: Financial Policy
     From: Chief Timotheus
1f. Re: Financial Policy
     From: Ann Wisnieski


Messages
________________________________________________________________________
1a. Financial Policy
     Posted by: "Susan Valenta" svalenta at ameritech.net svalenta at ameritech.net
     Date: Sun Aug 28, 2011 12:17 pm ((PDT))

Greetings!

      I am in the process of putting together a new Financial Policy for our
small canton.  In the spring, several of you were very helpful in  
sharing ideas
regarding the initial areas being considered.  I am now looking at event
budgeting and expenses.  Our canton has previously experienced  
problems  in this
area, and I am hoping to eliminate future difficulties by including clear
guidelines and procedures.


      We have had a situation in which the Event Autocrat could or would not
submit a budget for the event, up until 3 weeks prior to the event.  In the
meantime, they had published feast and gate fees in the Pale.  I am wondering
whether requiring receipt and approval of the budget, prior to any information
being sent to the Pale or any expenses incurred, would be sufficient;  
or do some
groups have a set deadline?


      I am also considering making it standard for the Exchequer to provide the
Autocrat with a 5-year record of previous event attendance, income, and
expenses, as well as a copy of the event pricing guidelines spelled out in the
Exchequers' Handbook, to help him or her to put together a reasonable and
workable budget.  Some Autocrats don't seem to know where to start in  
developing
a budget.  Often Autocrats begin by setting feast and gate fees, often
conservative, and then manipulate their other estimates to make this look good
on paper.  Sometimes this can work out, sometimes not.  Have any of  
you had some
of these problems, and how have you overcome them?

      I would appreciate any of your comments or suggestions.

Yours truly,


Lady Clare of Monkeswell


Messages in this topic (12)
________________________________________________________________________
1b. Re: Financial Policy
     Posted by: "Bradley Wolf" idahobrad at cableone.net idahobrad01
     Date: Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:41 pm ((PDT))

We have a requirement that the budget must be signed off before the event
approval form will be signed off.

-b

Baron K. Braden von Sobernheim, OL,OP,GA?

Messages in this topic (12)
________________________________________________________________________
1c. Re: Financial Policy
     Posted by: "Carolyn Richardson" tetchubah at gmail.com tetchubah
     Date: Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:31 pm ((PDT))

I would recommend having any autocrat submit a proposed budget when they ask
for the job of hosting the event.  While that may be months in advance - and
should be -  that gives both you and the Seneschal an idea of where they are
heading with the event, such as the site they're proposing to use,
activities for the day, etc.    I started tracking in a spreadsheet our
events from year to year, just entering some of the basic information which
might be useful to know at my fingertips like # of attendees, gate income,
any other income like fundraisers at the event, site cost, etc.  That way if
someone wanted some guidelines on a budget for a normal event I could tell
them pretty easily.



I know several groups here keep notebooks for their annual events with
details like that for future event stewards to refer to.  They're charged
with updating it for their event.



It seems to me if the autocrat has already submitted information to the
Pale, they should be able to get you a budget if you ask for one.  Otherwise
how do they know what the site fee or feast fee is going to be?  They at
least have it in their head and should commit it to paper.



I had one event steward drive me crazy because he never said a word about
the event until a week beforehand, when he wanted a check for $150 for a
portapottie.  I was annoyed since it was the first time he'd mentioned the
event would need one, and he'd set the site fee at $7/head, but $5 of that
had to be paid over to the archery range where they were having the event
for every person shooting, which meant that left only $2/person to cover
expenses.  The event rarely had more than 40-50 people at it in prior years,
and most of them were archers.  Some last minute publicity on his part
managed to just cover his expenses by bringing in more non-archers, but as
that was about the 3rd time he'd pulled something like that it was also the
last time I agreed to let him run an event.



Tetchubah



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________________________________________________________________________
1d. Re: Financial Policy
     Posted by: "jim_hannold" jim_hannold at yahoo.com jim_hannold
     Date: Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:22 pm ((PDT))

We have a specific budget already set for our Autocrats. Our Financial  
Committee (in our case, that's all paid members of the group present  
at a business meeting) is required to approve all event bids. For  
example, for our spring event, we take the average attendance of the  
last 3 spring weekend events and that's the estimated attendance. It's  
written into our Financial Policy that the Autocrat gets $1.50 per  
person for a weekend event, based on that estimated attendance number  
and that's their budget. If they need to go over, it has to be brought  
to a vote of the Financial Committee ahead of time or else they will  
not get reimbursed for any overage. We do the same with the Feastocrat  
based on the number of feast spots they are providing for.

We have a handbook for the Autocrat that has an Excel spreadsheet that  
takes the calculated expected attendance, Autocrat budget, Feast  
budget, and site fees, and calculates all of the gate fees. The  
Autocrat is required to bring that completed spreadsheet to a vote of  
the Financial Committee along with their flyer, theme, feast plan,  
etc. If they are missing anything, then there is no vote, and thus the  
person does not get the bid.

That way the Autocrat MUST give us a budget before their bid is ever approved.

YIS
THL Jakob
Reeve, Barony of Grey Niche


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________________________________________________________________________
1e. Re: Financial Policy
     Posted by: "Chief Timotheus" chieftimotheus at gmail.com chieftimotheus
     Date: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:16 pm ((PDT))

Greetings Lady Clare

In the Barony of Altavia we require that the budget be approved by the
finance committee before the add is sent to the Crown Prints. First
add is four months out. You must have the budget determine the gate
fees.


We also run a 7 year total attendance and an average.  We use the
average to determine attendance. We then base all figuring off the
average- add up expected  normal expences, figure your income from
attendance, and you can figure your gate fees.



as well as a copy of the event pricing guidelines spelled out in
> the
> Exchequers' Handbook, to help him or her to put together a reasonable and
> workable budget.  Some Autocrats don't seem to know where to start in
> developing
> a budget.  Often Autocrats begin by setting feast and gate fees, often
> conservative, and then manipulate their other estimates to make this look
> good
> on paper.  Sometimes this can work out, sometimes not.  Have any of you had
> some
> of these problems, and how have you overcome them?
>


If you have done the above you will then be able to set gate.  IF you
have other things happening at the event then you put those expences
at the expence portion and refigure your worksheet.

IF you need a copy of a good budget work sheet let me know. ( I have
sent copies of Altavian Exchequer paperwork to many groups and it has
helped.)

Yours,

Master Timotheus


Messages in this topic (12)
________________________________________________________________________
1f. Re: Financial Policy
     Posted by: "Ann Wisnieski" ann.wisnieski at gmail.com dulcia at ameritech.net
     Date: Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:23 pm ((PDT))

Hi All,

Our Barony has many events each year, and all have to be submitted by bid to
the officers at least six months prior to the event or the event will be
canceled.

We have a couple of autocrat and feast  checklists online for
people to use for the bid (I also have an exchequer checklist but that is
not available online yet). If it is one of our big events we like to pair
people up with a person who has run a large event before to cover any
problems.

If there are any overruns on the event bid, for example if a feast
went over the amount allotted, the payment is then discussed by the
officers. We have never turned anybody down about feasts (things happen),
but it does help to talk about the situation and how to prevent it in future
events.

If a payment is submitted that was not spelled out in the bid that
discussion will go to the officers, for example they buy 20 tiki torches and
the Barony already has 100, this may very well be rejected.

We also have
people tell us who are comped for an event and if it is outside our normal
grouping (Baron, baroness, king, queen, prince, princess, one retainer each
for royalty) the comp must be with the permission of the officers.

To submit
a bid the minimum information we require: autocrat, feast coordinator,
gatekeeper, location, date, amount for rent, feast, other misc payments and
cost per head.

We also request a complete event bid if we don't get one,
then it will not be voted on. We were having a problem for a while about
people getting signed up for an event that were never asked, so now we ask
for a signature for each of the spots on the event roster.

I have also just gone through our paperwork for the last 10 years and I have
a large spread sheet with all of our events. This shows attendance (adults
and youth), how much was made or lost for the event and feast, and an
itemized list of expenses. It has already come to be very handy.
We try to price our events so we break even, to making a modest income (we
need to cover rent at our meeting place.) The autocrats normally put a bid
in with low attendance numbers to cover the worse an event has made and if
there are extra people then that's a bonus. We make sure the event sites can
hold traditionally high numbers just in case we get a lot more people than
expected. This has really worked out for us in the past.

Ann Wisnieski
Dulcia Wylde
Barony of the Cleftlands
Middle Kingdom


On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:22 PM, jim_hannold <jim_hannold at yahoo.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> We have a specific budget already set for our Autocrats. Our Financial
> Committee (in our case, that's all paid members of the group present at a
> business meeting) is required to approve all event bids. For example, for
> our spring event, we take the average attendance of the last 3 spring
> weekend events and that's the estimated attendance. It's written into our
> Financial Policy that the Autocrat gets $1.50 per person for a weekend
> event, based on that estimated attendance number and that's their budget. If
> they need to go over, it has to be brought to a vote of the Financial
> Committee ahead of time or else they will not get reimbursed for any
> overage. We do the same with the Feastocrat based on the number of feast
> spots they are providing for.
>
> We have a handbook for the Autocrat that has an Excel spreadsheet that
> takes the calculated expected attendance, Autocrat budget, Feast budget, and
> site fees, and calculates all of the gate fees. The Autocrat is required to
> bring that completed spreadsheet to a vote of the Financial Committee along
> with their flyer, theme, feast plan, etc. If they are missing anything, then
> there is no vote, and thus the person does not get the bid.
>
> That way the Autocrat MUST give us a budget before their bid is ever
> approved.
>
> YIS
> THL Jakob
> Reeve, Barony of Grey Niche
>

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From canzonet3 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 29 10:10:44 2011
From: canzonet3 at gmail.com (canzonet3)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:10:44 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
Message-ID: <CACmBBWrDdvGvFDV4-3wbVxUkcQOPsxkTVcnQh_XEimdd1FaasA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

As the madness of summer camping is drawing to a close, it seems to be time
to start regular A&S in Northern Hartwood area again.  We also have a number
of projects on-the-go that could use some regular hands at work.

So to that end, here's the idea we're kicking around:  having A&S as a
post-work meeting, including dinner, and communally cooked with both
omnivore and vegetarian options.

Meals to explore different regions and cultures in SCA timeperiod, notes on
what worked and was popular to be kept for reference of the Shire and
possibly submitted to website/newsletter.  Menus will be predetermined at
the meeting prior.  Menu items will be brought, pot-luck - style, by
attendees, to be assembled on-site.  Consuming to happen over the course of
the evening.  :)

How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?


A&S itself right now is the making of small books for largesse, style to be
determined by the type of stitching you use.  Coptic is a safe bet ;)

How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox Vally
area?


Please write in and make yourself heard!

Yours, in Service,
Cecille de Beumund,
A&S, Hartwoodshire

sable, semy of quatrefoils argent
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From bear_necessities at telus.net  Mon Aug 29 10:19:30 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:19:30 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
In-Reply-To: <CACmBBWrDdvGvFDV4-3wbVxUkcQOPsxkTVcnQh_XEimdd1FaasA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <268EF1BE4CBC48A894DA68197C59B459@MorelPC>

Cecille wrote:
> How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?

I love it, and yes!

> How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox 
> Vally
> area?

My schedule is all over the place, so the day doesn't matter to me - I will 
be able to go sometimes, and not others.

Dori 




From doerksen at island.net  Mon Aug 29 18:38:09 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 18:38:09 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: [rocks] Armoured Combat Marshal Status
 Update........IMPORTANT
Message-ID: <20110829183809.14711f5lb78vkzcx@webmail.uniserve.com>

FYI... and we have people on these lists...

Halima
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From doerksen at island.net  Mon Aug 29 19:07:50 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 19:07:50 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Coptic bookbinding video
Message-ID: <20110829190750.19682krgro2qaqd2@webmail.uniserve.com>

This is just for stitching it together...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-aqaPAdufk&feature=related

Halima
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From redshasta at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 00:11:00 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:11:00 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd:  North-Hartwood A&S:
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LR+0J77gyoVSsbx3JrS_uPUAahzE-TkE20DL0qf-VQxAQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Oh yeah... I was going to send this to the WHOLE LIST.  So you can ALL FEEL
MY PAIN.

or something

Julie

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From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
To: Morel Carr Zupanic <bear_necessities at telus.net>


South Hartwood is having A&S on Wednesdays as well.  I am wording a very
strong Facebook post about "some people" who "steal OUR day".

Of course, if I were to do things PROPERLY, I suppose we could do a road
trip at some point so that I could glare and make passive-aggressive
comments in person.  If people were to chip in for gas, we could probably
bring them up as well.

Scathach



On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Morel Carr Zupanic <
bear_necessities at telus.net> wrote:

> Cecille wrote:
>
>> How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?
>>
>
> I love it, and yes!
>
>
>  How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox
>> Vally
>> area?
>>
>
> My schedule is all over the place, so the day doesn't matter to me - I will
> be able to go sometimes, and not others.
>
> Dori
>
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From canzonet3 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 00:36:15 2011
From: canzonet3 at gmail.com (canzonet3)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:36:15 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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Gee,  I kinda liked the *unity* of all the A&S happening at the same time ;)
- Cecille
(who now has enough signatures for 6 books ready to go.  Whoo-hoo!)

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh yeah... I was going to send this to the WHOLE LIST.  So you can ALL FEEL
> MY PAIN.
>
> or something
>
> Julie
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
> To: Morel Carr Zupanic <bear_necessities at telus.net>
>
>
> South Hartwood is having A&S on Wednesdays as well.  I am wording a very
> strong Facebook post about "some people" who "steal OUR day".
>
> Of course, if I were to do things PROPERLY, I suppose we could do a road
> trip at some point so that I could glare and make passive-aggressive
> comments in person.  If people were to chip in for gas, we could probably
> bring them up as well.
>
> Scathach
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Morel Carr Zupanic <
> bear_necessities at telus.net> wrote:
>
>> Cecille wrote:
>>
>>> How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?
>>>
>>
>> I love it, and yes!
>>
>>
>>  How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox
>>> Vally
>>> area?
>>>
>>
>> My schedule is all over the place, so the day doesn't matter to me - I
>> will be able to go sometimes, and not others.
>>
>> Dori
>>
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From doerksen at island.net  Tue Aug 30 00:43:35 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:43:35 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd:  North-Hartwood A&S:
In-Reply-To: <CA+LO9LRMTDMbRCXrwD2RfaE-ZD_oB3mwD8v_TMVMZyNUHRbgoA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACmBBWrDdvGvFDV4-3wbVxUkcQOPsxkTVcnQh_XEimdd1FaasA@mail.gmail.com>
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Indeed, my lady, I do feel your pain.

Perhaps you may also be feeling mine own pain that arise from the  
difficulty of fulfilling the duties of paid work and then feeling the  
pressure to leave said work, skip dinner and shower, -and- be down in  
-your- neck of the woods in a timely fashion (albeit less than fresh  
and hypoglycemic), and then leaving such convivial company early  
enough to get sufficient sleep for the next day of paid labours. You  
struck me through the heart when you scheduled for the -middle- of a  
-work-week-! How could you!?!! Do you not -care- about those of your  
compadres more distantly habitated?!?!?! Really!!!!! {harumph!!!!!!!}

Halima
P.S. Yes, there will be some adjustments in our larger-than-usual  
branch. Mid-week travel does not work for me, but others may not be so  
constrained; I feel longing when I cannot attend, with no hurt  
feelings whatsoever! (hugs to whoever needs them...)
P.P.S. Did I use enough !s?
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:11:00 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>:

> Oh yeah... I was going to send this to the WHOLE LIST.  So you can ALL FEEL
> MY PAIN.
>
> or something
>
> Julie
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
> To: Morel Carr Zupanic <bear_necessities at telus.net>
>
>
> South Hartwood is having A&S on Wednesdays as well.  I am wording a very
> strong Facebook post about "some people" who "steal OUR day".
>
> Of course, if I were to do things PROPERLY, I suppose we could do a road
> trip at some point so that I could glare and make passive-aggressive
> comments in person.  If people were to chip in for gas, we could probably
> bring them up as well.
>
> Scathach
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Morel Carr Zupanic <
> bear_necessities at telus.net> wrote:
>
>> Cecille wrote:
>>
>>> How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?
>>>
>>
>> I love it, and yes!
>>
>>
>>  How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox
>>> Vally area?
>>>
>>
>> My schedule is all over the place, so the day doesn't matter to me - I will
>> be able to go sometimes, and not others.
>>
>> Dori




From doerksen at island.net  Tue Aug 30 00:47:17 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:47:17 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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Excellent! (The "unity" and the signatures...) Maybe she's jealous  
because -you- offer -food- (or at least the communal preparation of it)!

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:36:15 AM PDT, quoting canzonet3 <canzonet3 at gmail.com>:

> Gee,  I kinda liked the *unity* of all the A&S happening at the same time ;)
> - Cecille
> (who now has enough signatures for 6 books ready to go.  Whoo-hoo!)
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh yeah... I was going to send this to the WHOLE LIST.  So you can ALL FEEL
>> MY PAIN.
>>
>> or something
>>
>> Julie
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Morel Carr Zupanic <
>> bear_necessities at telus.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Cecille wrote:
>>>
>>>> How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?
>>>>
>>>  How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox
>>>> Vally area?




From redshasta at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 01:02:41 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:02:41 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
In-Reply-To: <20110830005253.85054198i3vxno45@webmail.uniserve.com>
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DO YOUR WORST!  I shall arrive clothed in the warmest of garments and armed
with the gaze of a thousand ice picks!  MUAHAHAHA!

Wait, did I send this to the list?  OMG!

Scathach

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:52 AM, <doerksen at island.net> wrote:

> Crap. I meant to send that to the list... {sigh...} D at mn that touchy
> 'send' finger...
>
> LJ
>
> --
> http://www.island.net/~**doerksen/ <http://www.island.net/~doerksen/>
>
> Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:47:10 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <
> redshasta at gmail.com>:
>
>  Like, OMG, dramaz!!! You see, it's now totally necessary that I come up so
>> we can pointedly ignore each other in person.
>>
>> Scathach.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:43 AM, <doerksen at island.net> wrote:
>>
>>  Indeed, my lady, I do feel your pain.
>>>
>>> Perhaps you may also be feeling mine own pain that arise from the
>>> difficulty of fulfilling the duties of paid work and then feeling the
>>> pressure to leave said work, skip dinner and shower, -and- be down in
>>> -your-
>>> neck of the woods in a timely fashion (albeit less than fresh and
>>> hypoglycemic), and then leaving such convivial company early enough to
>>> get
>>> sufficient sleep for the next day of paid labours. You struck me through
>>> the
>>> heart when you scheduled for the -middle- of a -work-week-! How could
>>> you!?!! Do you not -care- about those of your compadres more distantly
>>> habitated?!?!?! Really!!!!! {harumph!!!!!!!}
>>>
>>> Halima
>>> P.S. Yes, there will be some adjustments in our larger-than-usual branch.
>>> Mid-week travel does not work for me, but others may not be so
>>> constrained;
>>> I feel longing when I cannot attend, with no hurt feelings whatsoever!
>>> (hugs
>>> to whoever needs them...)
>>> P.P.S. Did I use enough !s?
>>> --
>>> http://www.island.net/~****doerksen/<http://www.island.net/~**doerksen/><
>>> http://www.island.net/~**doerksen/ <http://www.island.net/~doerksen/>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:11:00 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <
>>> redshasta at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Oh yeah... I was going to send this to the WHOLE LIST.  So you can ALL
>>>
>>>> FEEL
>>>> MY PAIN.
>>>>
>>>> or something
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
>>>> To: Morel Carr Zupanic <bear_necessities at telus.net>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> South Hartwood is having A&S on Wednesdays as well.  I am wording a very
>>>> strong Facebook post about "some people" who "steal OUR day".
>>>>
>>>> Of course, if I were to do things PROPERLY, I suppose we could do a road
>>>> trip at some point so that I could glare and make passive-aggressive
>>>> comments in person.  If people were to chip in for gas, we could
>>>> probably
>>>> bring them up as well.
>>>>
>>>> Scathach
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Morel Carr Zupanic <
>>>> bear_necessities at telus.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Cecille wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I love it, and yes!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox
>>>>>
>>>>>  Vally area?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  My schedule is all over the place, so the day doesn't matter to me -
>>>>> I
>>>>> will
>>>>> be able to go sometimes, and not others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dori
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> ______________________________****_________________
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>>> Hartwood at tirrigh.org
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>>>
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From canzonet3 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 01:18:31 2011
From: canzonet3 at gmail.com (canzonet3)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 01:18:31 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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Oooohh - ice-picks!
I wonder if those would work better than push-pins for making these bl*%dy
holes in the paper?
- C.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com> wrote:

> DO YOUR WORST!  I shall arrive clothed in the warmest of garments and armed
> with the gaze of a thousand ice picks!  MUAHAHAHA!
>
> Wait, did I send this to the list?  OMG!
>
> Scathach
>
>
>>
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From vlennox at pacificcoast.net  Tue Aug 30 08:07:51 2011
From: vlennox at pacificcoast.net (Valorie Lennox)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 08:07:51 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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I vote that 'south' Hartwood BLATANTLY STEALS the medieval potluck concept
for implementation once a month.
 
So THERE!! TAKE THAT!
 
- Elspeth
 
P.S. Once I get the house semi-organized, I'll host.

 
  _____  

From: hartwood-bounces at tirrigh.org [mailto:hartwood-bounces at tirrigh.org] On
Behalf Of Julie MacT?re
Sent: August-30-11 1:03 AM
To: doerksen at island.net; hartwood at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:


DO YOUR WORST!  I shall arrive clothed in the warmest of garments and armed
with the gaze of a thousand ice picks!  MUAHAHAHA! 

Wait, did I send this to the list?  OMG!

Scathach


On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:52 AM, <doerksen at island.net> wrote:


Crap. I meant to send that to the list... {sigh...} D at mn that touchy 'send'
finger...

LJ 

-- 
http://www.island.net/~ <http://www.island.net/~doerksen/> doerksen/


Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:47:10 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re
<redshasta at gmail.com>:



Like, OMG, dramaz!!! You see, it's now totally necessary that I come up so
we can pointedly ignore each other in person.

Scathach.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:43 AM, <doerksen at island.net> wrote:



Indeed, my lady, I do feel your pain.

Perhaps you may also be feeling mine own pain that arise from the
difficulty of fulfilling the duties of paid work and then feeling the
pressure to leave said work, skip dinner and shower, -and- be down in -your-
neck of the woods in a timely fashion (albeit less than fresh and
hypoglycemic), and then leaving such convivial company early enough to get
sufficient sleep for the next day of paid labours. You struck me through the
heart when you scheduled for the -middle- of a -work-week-! How could
you!?!! Do you not -care- about those of your compadres more distantly
habitated?!?!?! Really!!!!! {harumph!!!!!!!}

Halima
P.S. Yes, there will be some adjustments in our larger-than-usual branch.
Mid-week travel does not work for me, but others may not be so constrained;
I feel longing when I cannot attend, with no hurt feelings whatsoever! (hugs
to whoever needs them...)
P.P.S. Did I use enough !s?
--

http://www.island.net/~** <http://www.island.net/~**doerksen/> doerksen/
<http://www.island.net/~ <http://www.island.net/~doerksen/> doerksen/> 


Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:11:00 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <
redshasta at gmail.com>:


 Oh yeah... I was going to send this to the WHOLE LIST.  So you can ALL


FEEL
MY PAIN.

or something

Julie

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
To: Morel Carr Zupanic <bear_necessities at telus.net>


South Hartwood is having A&S on Wednesdays as well.  I am wording a very
strong Facebook post about "some people" who "steal OUR day".

Of course, if I were to do things PROPERLY, I suppose we could do a road
trip at some point so that I could glare and make passive-aggressive
comments in person.  If people were to chip in for gas, we could probably
bring them up as well.

Scathach



On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Morel Carr Zupanic <
bear_necessities at telus.net> wrote:

 Cecille wrote:



 How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?




I love it, and yes!


 How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox



Vally area?




My schedule is all over the place, so the day doesn't matter to me - I
will
be able to go sometimes, and not others.

Dori





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From doerksen at island.net  Tue Aug 30 10:16:47 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:16:47 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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Try the stylus from your sewing kit. Or the awl from the leather kit.  
Or the awl from the multi-bit screwdriver...

Halima
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Tue 30 Aug 2011 01:18:31 AM PDT, quoting canzonet3 <canzonet3 at gmail.com>:

> Oooohh - ice-picks!
> I wonder if those would work better than push-pins for making these bl*%dy
> holes in the paper?
> - C.
>
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 1:02 AM, Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> DO YOUR WORST!  I shall arrive clothed in the warmest of garments and armed
>> with the gaze of a thousand ice picks!  MUAHAHAHA!
>>
>> Wait, did I send this to the list?  OMG!
>>
>> Scathach




From doerksen at island.net  Tue Aug 30 10:24:54 2011
From: doerksen at island.net (doerksen at island.net)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 10:24:54 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Still the silly... interchange;
 was actually Re:  Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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Waitwaitwait...! Where's my lovely little diatribe about the cold  
shoulder and freezing glance?!? You can't have a proper argument  
without both sides of the argument! Really!

Halima, who sent this to the list! So there!
-- 
http://www.island.net/~doerksen/

Tue 30 Aug 2011 01:02:41 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>:

> DO YOUR WORST!  I shall arrive clothed in the warmest of garments and armed
> with the gaze of a thousand ice picks!  MUAHAHAHA!
>
> Wait, did I send this to the list?  OMG!
>
> Scathach
>

[proper response from Halima goes here...]

>>
>> Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:47:10 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <
>> redshasta at gmail.com>:
>>
>>  Like, OMG, dramaz!!! You see, it's now totally necessary that I come up so
>>> we can pointedly ignore each other in person.
>>>
>>> Scathach.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:43 AM, <doerksen at island.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Indeed, my lady, I do feel your pain.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps you may also be feeling mine own pain that arise from the
>>>> difficulty of fulfilling the duties of paid work and then feeling the
>>>> pressure to leave said work, skip dinner and shower, -and- be down in
>>>> -your-
>>>> neck of the woods in a timely fashion (albeit less than fresh and
>>>> hypoglycemic), and then leaving such convivial company early enough to
>>>> get
>>>> sufficient sleep for the next day of paid labours. You struck me through
>>>> the
>>>> heart when you scheduled for the -middle- of a -work-week-! How could
>>>> you!?!! Do you not -care- about those of your compadres more distantly
>>>> habitated?!?!?! Really!!!!! {harumph!!!!!!!}
>>>>
>>>> Halima
>>>> P.S. Yes, there will be some adjustments in our larger-than-usual branch.
>>>> Mid-week travel does not work for me, but others may not be so
>>>> constrained;
>>>> I feel longing when I cannot attend, with no hurt feelings whatsoever!
>>>> (hugs to whoever needs them...)
>>>> P.P.S. Did I use enough !s?
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Tue 30 Aug 2011 12:11:00 AM PDT, quoting Julie MacT?re <
>>>> redshasta at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Oh yeah... I was going to send this to the WHOLE LIST.  So you can ALL
>>>> FEEL MY PAIN.
>>>>>
>>>>> or something
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: Julie MacT?re <redshasta at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 12:10 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Hartwood] North-Hartwood A&S:
>>>>> To: Morel Carr Zupanic <bear_necessities at telus.net>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> South Hartwood is having A&S on Wednesdays as well.  I am wording a very
>>>>> strong Facebook post about "some people" who "steal OUR day".
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, if I were to do things PROPERLY, I suppose we could do a road
>>>>> trip at some point so that I could glare and make passive-aggressive
>>>>> comments in person.  If people were to chip in for gas, we could
>>>>> probably bring them up as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scathach
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Morel Carr Zupanic <
>>>>> bear_necessities at telus.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Cecille wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  How does the communal meal idea sound?  Shall we give it a try?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  How do Wednesdays sound?  Are they fairly free for folks in the Comox
>>>>>>  Vally area?




From bear_necessities at telus.net  Tue Aug 30 11:13:30 2011
From: bear_necessities at telus.net (Morel Carr Zupanic)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 11:13:30 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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Elspeth wrote:
> I vote that 'south' Hartwood BLATANTLY STEALS the medieval potluck concept
> for implementation once a month.
>
> So THERE!! TAKE THAT!

Vicious!  Keep an eye on West Hartwood - if you can steal, you can be stolen 
from!

Dori 




From canzonet3 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 17:16:21 2011
From: canzonet3 at gmail.com (canzonet3)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 17:16:21 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] North Hartwood A&S:
Message-ID: <CACmBBWqvKjwDLs2t3v9DrXn43KrCXNOhirM5jdwjtBgtLvf3_w@mail.gmail.com>

Who:  Whomever can make it!  Bring a friend.
When: Wednesday evening starting 6:30/7pm  - 'cause whenever I say 7:00
people show up at 6:30 anyway ;)
Where:  2312A 1st Street, Courtenay
Why:  100 books are not going to make themselves!  And it's much more fun to
make them as a group :)
What:  please bring: printer paper (fairly heavy) to start making
signatures; or, if you are familiar with the process, bring your "stuff"

We'll also figure out what night will be the official A&S night going into
the fall for North Hartwood, start planning the community cooking (if you
want to bring cookbooks that's cool!), and other like discussions.  No
responsibility taken by management for direction and length of tangential
discussions.

See you then!

Cecille de Beumund
A&S, Hartwoodshire
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From susanhudema at shaw.ca  Tue Aug 30 22:21:14 2011
From: susanhudema at shaw.ca (Susan Hudema)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:21:14 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:
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Actually I believe the idea probably originated in West Hartwood. Our Cook's 
Guild met once a month or so and tried out new recipes. There was one 
poached eggy one  with a sweet sauce that we decided never, ever to serve 
again! We also found some good ones that were usually served at Black 
Knight.
Sara
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From: "Morel Carr Zupanic" <bear_necessities at telus.net>
To: <hartwood at tirrigh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Hartwood] Fwd: North-Hartwood A&S:


> Elspeth wrote:
>> I vote that 'south' Hartwood BLATANTLY STEALS the medieval potluck 
>> concept
>> for implementation once a month.
>>
>> So THERE!! TAKE THAT!
>
> Vicious!  Keep an eye on West Hartwood - if you can steal, you can be 
> stolen from!
>
> Dori
>
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From redshasta at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 23:13:31 2011
From: redshasta at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julie_MacT=EDre?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:13:31 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] SOUTH Hartwood A&S Night (Nanaimo)
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While the people in NORTH Hartwood are plotting their devious machinations,
it's up to the people in SOUTH Hartwood to keep up with the Cragmeri- er,
Jones- er those other Hartwoodians and have our own A&S night, which will
be, as usual, Wednesday (tomorrow) August 31 from 6:30 to around 9:30.

Location: 1832 B Latimer Road, Nanaimo (on the right as you face the house,
around the back)

Parking: Along the street is fine; the driveway is already taken by our
landlord and us.

Pets: One smallish dog who is exploding with shedding fur.  While we try to
brush it out, it's possible that it will provide a convenient filter for
your coffee.  Or tea; whatever you prefer.  It imparts a kind of nutty
flavour.  He's friendly with older children and adults; toddlers damage his
calm.

Subject:  As with last time, we just want people to come out.  I'm going to
be working on coptic binding for largesse and maybe some wire weaving if
enough interest is shown.  If there is no interest shown, you'll never see
it, EVER, you ingrates!

Instead of collecting donations at A&S, we're going to encourage people to
bring things to share and will be providing beverages ourselves.

PS From 4-6 at the VIEX, the Bowen Farmers Market is on in the field between
the equestrian paddock and the Centennial Hall/swimming pool buildings.
 Lots of great veggies and there's this woman who sells these chocolate
meringues filled with chocolate mousse which I would kill and taxidermy an
indeterminate amount of loved ones for.  If you're looking to do some
shopping for groceries, that's the place.

PPS  I have a sewing machine. No skill, but the machine is there for anyone
who needs to use it.

PPPS I have decided that lure coursing should be a part of all future
Hartwood camping events.

Scathach!
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From canzonet3 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 30 23:46:25 2011
From: canzonet3 at gmail.com (canzonet3)
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 23:46:25 -0700
Subject: [Hartwood] looking for wilhelm (sp?)
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Greetings,

Sorry for the bandwith everyone,

I've currently got 251 unread emails in my inbox, and I'm dealing with about
25 a day and making small headway...  I thought that this might be faster
than scanning - lol.

Looking for Wilhelm from West-Hartwood / Port Alberni area?
We're having a conversation about the Charter.  Or rather you were having a
quick one and I kinda stalled it, sorry.
I've got some feedback to get going with :)  Contact me, please?

Thank you!
- Cecille
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