<DIV>Halima,</DIV>
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<DIV>Yes, please - I'd like to be part of the UTR webteam.</DIV>
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<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV>Elena</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: doerksen@island.net<BR>Date: Monday, August 17, 2009 1:04 pm<BR>Subject: [Utr] UTR on the web (long)<BR>To: "utr@tirrigh.org" <utr@tirrigh.org><BR><BR>> UTR on the web (long)<BR>> <BR>> After much discussion and consultation...<BR>> <BR>> The Project Plan as given is:<BR>> <BR>> No Task<BR>> <BR>> 1.00 Technology Management<BR>> 1.01 Create data base for student records<BR>> 1.02 Create Data base for instructor records<BR>> 1.03 Create Web page University<BR>> 1.04 Management of Email List<BR>> 1.05 Storage of New Comers Certificate material<BR>> 1.06 Calender of UTR sessions<BR>> 1.07 Create Section for Deans only - include UTR manual<BR>> <BR>> Note that all my timelines are estimates only; our mileage -will-<BR>> vary.<BR>> <BR>> Note that all the people working on this seem to have jobs and <BR>> other <BR>> activities in their lives, so it is difficult to give dates <BR>> as <BR>> deadlines. (40 hours is a working week, but two months if only a <BR>> full <BR>> day per week.)<BR>> <BR>> The database(s) will be the biggest chunk. In discussion with <BR>> John, <BR>> who created the Ithra site and database, some 38 tables may very <BR>> well <BR>> be needed. John suggested a book for designing databases, and <BR>> those <BR>> involved in our database creation may very well want to read it, <BR>> too <BR>> (mine is on order), so we have a common "language". Timeline: I <BR>> expect <BR>> 40 hours for the framework (please prove me overestimating, <BR>> but <BR>> several hours for determining all the fields required and where <BR>> they <BR>> should be stored, more time to determine how to sort and access <BR>> [index <BR>> fields], and more time to actually do the coding).<BR>> <BR>> The web page is not -just- a page: it is a "site", and will <BR>> have <BR>> approximately a dozen pages. Timeline: approximately 30 hours to <BR>> set <BR>> up the templates, considerably shorter for further pages (maybe <BR>> an <BR>> hour-ish per, using the templates).<BR>> <BR>> An email list, such as this one we are currently on, can <BR>> continue as <BR>> is. There should always be at least two moderators active <BR>> (online <BR>> frequently) to ensure people get onto it that should be, and in <BR>> a <BR>> timely fashion, and those that get on that shouldn't, get <BR>> booted, in a <BR>> timely fashion. We appear to have Lenora<BR>> and Magdelena at this point, so timeline: done.<BR>> <BR>> Storage of Newcomer Certificate material... If this is in the <BR>> form of <BR>> PDFs, we can have a directory set up and upload that now; we <BR>> can <BR>> quickly set up a simple page of links to make them <BR>> accessible. <BR>> Timeline: I might even get that set up today!<BR>> <BR>> Calendar of UTR sessions... Do you want a calendar database, <BR>> ala <BR>> Ithra? That'll go into the database section. Timeline: as above.<BR>> <BR>> Section for Deans only... I'm having trouble with the concept. <BR>> If it's <BR>> for discussions, we have the email list. If it's for manuals <BR>> and <BR>> how-to info, I think it should be public. Hiding info on what <BR>> Deans do <BR>> and how we do it reduces the number of people who understand <BR>> what we <BR>> do and why, and it reduces the number of people who might step <BR>> forward <BR>> to work as Deans thereby limiting our resources. Preventing <BR>> others <BR>> from being interested in being Deans contributes to our burn-out.<BR>> <BR>> However (to continue the Deans-only thought), we -will- <BR>> want <BR>> Deans-only access for entering student data.<BR>> <BR>> Now... To only slightly divert the topic...<BR>> <BR>> The Tir Righ website is currently undergoing a conversion to a <BR>> Joomla! <BR>> interface, radically changing how the website is created <BR>> (currently <BR>> PHP). What makes it -most- interesting is that many people will <BR>> have <BR>> access to its creation according to the admin-levels assigned to <BR>> them <BR>> (at least 6, if I recall correctly).<BR>> <BR>> I see this as a step forward, but it, too, will take time.<BR>> <BR>> I want to see the UTR site as simple and clean as possible to <BR>> ensure <BR>> we can convert easily when the time comes.<BR>> <BR>> At this point, it appears that Elena, Alicia, maybe Yrsa, <BR>> maybe <BR>> Caoimhe are on the UTR webteam. Would you all confirm this? I <BR>> would <BR>> also like to see John on the team; he created the Ithra website <BR>> and <BR>> database, and is interested in being part of this, but not able <BR>> to put <BR>> much energy in; I see him as a resource to prevent us from <BR>> doing <BR>> unneeded work, and to let us know when something ought to be <BR>> added <BR>> that he never got to. (Cor! Do I need to break down my <BR>> sentence <BR>> structure?) So... Your thoughts?<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Halima<BR>> P.S. The show was great! No costume failure. Our insecure <BR>> dancer <BR>> acquitted herself well. No one tripped. All errors of <BR>> choreography <BR>> went unnoticed. The audience -loved- us!<BR>> <BR>> -- <BR>> http://www.island.net/~doerksen/<BR>> </DIV>