[tirrigh-heralds] L'Etoile d'Argent renaming

[Judy Harcus]

Britt wrote:

>l'Etoile d'Argent, Argent Estoile, Silver Estoile, or any correct
>French variant, are all clear from conflict.
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>- Teceangl
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 From the July 2007 Laurel Letter (returns):
Tir Rígh, Principality of. Order name L'ordre de l'Etoile Argente.

    This order name conflicts with the Order of the Argent Estoille of
    Trimaris, registered to the kingdom of Trimaris in October, 1991.
    Both names contain descriptive elements nearly identical in sound
    and appearance and identical in meaning (Silver Star). RFS 2.b.i and
    2.b.ii. say that two non-personal names with the same number of
    descriptive elements conflict unless i) "each of them contains a
    descriptive element significantly different from every descriptive
    element in the other", or ii) "either the order of the elements or
    the grammatical structure of the name has changed in a way that
    significantly changes the meaning of the name as a whole." In this
    case, the descriptive elements are identical, and the change in the
    order of the elements does not significantly change the meaning of
    the name as a whole. The kingdom name in the one order name is
    transparent for purposes of conflict. We would drop the descriptive
    element Argente, but the order name would then conflict with Estoile
    Pursuivant, registered to the kingdom of the West in January 1982
    and Order of the Estoile, registered to the Barony of Winter's Gate
    in December 1984. We note that l'Ordre de l'Etoile Argente (note
    that this suggestion corrects the capitalization from the submitted
    form) would be registerable if the principality of Tir Rígh obtained
    a letter of permission to conflict from the Kingdom of Trimaris.

So I question whether at least the first two are really clear.  (Also, 
is "l'Etoile d'Argent" proper grammer?  My french is pretty rusty but 
doesn't the translate as "the Star of White" with "of" being in the 
sense of "from"? )

Alicia

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