[tirrigh-heralds] Fwd: Conflict check please

[Joan Kew]

Whoops, meant to send to all ...

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "Joan Kew" <bogfairy at shaw.ca>
To: "Basil" <BasilD at lavabit.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:25:28 PM
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Conflict check please

Thank you for your advice, Basil. It didn't occur to me that a sunflower wouldn't be proper, so I appreciate that. 


Do you think this is appropriate? 

Device: Azure, a sunflower Or seeded sable and on a base Or a cauldron sable.

Badge: (Fieldless) On a cauldron sable a sunflower Or seeded sable.

(I don't suppose it could be seeded "proper" or brown?) 


By "taken" referring to "(Fieldless) sunflower," I meant already registered to someone else. I must brush up on my herald speak!

Hawise

----- Original Message -----
From: "Basil" <BasilD at lavabit.com>
To: "collegeofheralds" <collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:38:58 PM
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Conflict check please

On 7/10/2013 4:42 PM, Joan Kew wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> I would welcome any opinions on whether or not this device and/or
> badge is free of conflicts. I suspect that there is a potential
> conflict for the badge, which I've mentioned below. I *think* the
> device is okay.
>
> Device: Azure, a sunflower and on a base Or a cauldron sable.

I didn't find any conflict.

> Badge: (Fieldless) On a cauldron sable  a sunflower. 

What tincture is the sunflower?

The Glossary (http://heraldry.sca.org/coagloss.html) doesn't list a
default tincture for a sunflower, so you have to have it in the blazon.

> Does this conflict with Nicole Hardel le Noreys: (Fieldless) On a
> cauldron sable a mushroom Or.

No. There's one DC for fieldlessness and another for changing the type 
of the tertiary charge.

I didn't find any conflict.

> The sunflower proper is taken and the cauldron itself as well,
> except in gules or purpure, which the client is not crazy about.

Errr... what? "Taken" in what sense? (Oh, and remember, there's no 
proper for sunflowers)


~~Basil Dragonstrike

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eārum nūper?

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Disobedience is Mandatory!


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