[tirrigh-heralds] Conflict check please

[Joan Kew]

Basil (and others), I think I have made some headway with the possibility of a sunflower proper; please advise, and thank you!

>From http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2007/07/07-07cl.html:

>From Wreath: Sunflowers Proper

In returning Cassandra von Schwabing's device in November 2000 Laurel ruled, "There is no default color for the seeds of sunflowers: sometimes they are black, sometimes brown. Therefore, we cannot register a sunflower proper." However, over the years we have registered several sunflowers proper. Some of these had black seeds, some brown seeds. We hereby overturn the November 2000 precedent and allow sunflowers proper to be registered. Just as a thistle proper can have its tuft either gules or purpure, a sunflower proper may have either brown or sable seeds. For purposes of conflict checking, the tincture of a sunflower's seeds is not worth a difference. The presence of these seeds does not count as a tertiary charge.

Hawise
----- Original Message -----
From: "Basil" <BasilD at lavabit.com>
To: "Joan Kew" <bogfairy at shaw.ca>, "collegeofheralds" <collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:03:18 PM
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Conflict check please

On 7/10/2013 7:25 PM, Joan Kew wrote:
> Thank you for your advice, Basil. It didn't occur to me that a sunflower wouldn't be proper, so I appreciate that.
>
>
> Do you think this is appropriate?
>
> Device: Azure, a sunflower Or seeded sable and on a base Or a cauldron sable.
>
> Badge: (Fieldless) On a cauldron sable a sunflower Or seeded sable.

Looks OK to me.

> (I don't suppose it could be seeded "proper" or brown?)

I don't think so.

> By "taken" referring to "(Fieldless) sunflower," I meant already registered to someone else. I must brush up on my herald speak!

Ah!


~~Basil Dragonstrike

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