[tirrigh-heralds] Dimidiation question

[Wreath Sovereign of Arms]

You all might be interested in the May 1980 registration of the following:

Shire of the Shadowlands. Per pale azure and sable, issuant from the line
of division a demi­compass star and a demi­annulet, in base a laurel wreath
Or.

Note: By default, the demi­compass star is a demi­compass star of eight
points and is issuing to the dexter from the line of division at the center
point. Similarly the demi­annulet is issuing to the sinister also from the
center point so that it is conjoined to the demi­star. The laurel wreath
overall in base removes the appearance of dimidiated arms.


Practically ancient history, but interesting nonetheless!

-Emma


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Basil <BasilD at lavabit.com> wrote:

> On 6/6/2013 8:38 PM, Anthony Hawke, GdS wrote:
>
>> On 6/6/2013 8:21 PM, Basil wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  Wouldn't dimidiation be treated  the same (for all intents and
>>>> purposes) as marshalling?  It was an earlier form of the practise,
>>>> after all.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Consider, for example:
>>> http://farm8.staticflickr.com/**7432/8956996946_6a5ca61902_o.**jpg<http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/8956996946_6a5ca61902_o.jpg>
>>>
>>> That could not be impaled, but it could be dimidiated. Now consider
>>> SENA A.6.F.1.c and A.6.F.3.c. These say that having a charge or
>>> charges straddle the palar line removes the appearance of marshalling.
>>>
>>> This looks like dimidiation is being ignored, but I wonder if that's
>>> the intention.
>>>
>>
>> I don't see your example as dimidiation -- it is a counterchange,
>> plain and simple.  I would assume dimidiation if the 'charge' that is
>> bisected by the pale line is the left half of one charge and the right
>> half of a different charge.
>>
>
> That's the most frequent case in mundane heraldry, but nothing says you
> can't have the same charge in each half.
>
> "Sable, a sun between a tower and (any ol' thing) within a bordure argent,
> dimidiating Argent, a sun between (any ol' thing) a a tower within a
> bordure sable."
>
> Unlikely, I will agree, but not impossible. Considering some of the stuff
> the SCA/CoH says "has the appearance of marshalling" I'm not ruling out
> (nearly) anything.
>
>
>  I still believe that marshalling, impaling and dimidiation are all the
>> same thing, just done in different eras and cultures -- and therefore
>> must be treated the same.
>>
>
> Well, I'd say that impaling and dimidiation are two kinds of marshalling,
> but that's heading in nit-picky land. ;-)
>
>
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