[tirrigh-heralds] General Heraldry Questions

[Caitrina Sable Loat]

It's been my experience that the general practice is to work around the
conflict.  I have only 3 clients that were in conflict with someone else who
we've opted to try and track the other person down for permission to
conflict.  One client was successful but the other two came up against brick
walls.  Mainly the person(s) they were in conflict with hasn't been seen or
heard from in 10+ years.  I'm interested in hearing what experiences others
have.

Caitrina Sable Loat

-----Original Message-----
From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Elaine McMillan
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 4:51 PM
To: 'Nancy Carr Zupanic'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] General Heraldry Questions

I didn't intend to join the list. I was looking at the Tir Righ Online
Tracking System and it says "If you have any questions, please send us mail
at collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org"). Since I had a question, I sent the email.
Rather unexpectedly, I received an email saying I'd been added to the
list...

That aside - my question was about granting permission to conflict.

I discovered recently that a few years ago there was a submission in another
Kingdom which conflicted with my arms. As the submitter lives quite distant,
it's unlikely we'd ever be at the same event, so I would have given
permission to conflict.

Since the submitter never contacted me, I never had the opportunity.

So I was wondering how the system worked. If someone submits a device, and
it conflicts, is it standard procedure to contact the "original" and ask for
permission? Or is it more common to work with the submitter to change their
device so they can register their device?

Is there some mechanism to setup in advance that conflicts are permitted as
long as the submitter is from another Kingdom?

Regards,

Elena de Maisnilwarin


-----Original Message-----
From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Nancy Carr
Zupanic
Sent: August 3, 2007 12:32 AM
To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] General Heraldry Questions


Elena wrote:
> Who do we ask about general heraldry questions? For example, about 
> giving permission for someone from another Kingdom to conflict with 
> our arms/devices?

This list is a good place to ask general and specific questions.

As for your sample question, if someone has asked you permission to 
conflict, and you would like to offer that permission, you can go to the 
Laurel Education page - http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/education.html - 
where you will find a standard Letter of Permission To Conflict.  It is a 
good guideline letter.  You would complete it with the needed info, then 
send the letter to the person or their representative who contacted you 
asking for permission to conflict.

Hope this helps!

Doireann 


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