[tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea!

Rosemary Underhill cocinera at shaw.ca
Fri Jun 1 11:46:18 PDT 2007


Hi Silver Yale, and my other fellow heralds of Tir Righ

Not sure of the answer to this one, as I haven't heard back from the last
set we sent to their Highnesses.  I had hoped you might have been given some
feedback on these at  Investiture.   However below is what I copied to  Her
Highness Caoimhinn from the e-mail I sent to you on badge repatriation.  And
to my knowledge, no decisions have been made on these.

"The Alpine lily would conflict with the use of "their Alpine Highnesses" in
Summits. I have looked at Edelweiss, at on checking the O&A it would
conflict checked with multi petaled flowers. The Kingdom of Drachenwald has
the "Order of the Edelweiss" so, we would have to have it modified if we
want it. For example "The Order of the Ice Edelweiss" and suggested badge
could be Azure within an orle an edelweiss argent slipped and leaved or.

The Lumiere du Nord. I can find no medieval example of an order that has a
direction included in it. Also, I remember the problems we had when we
wanted to have our Principality called "The North". Laurel Soverign of Arms
ruled it conflicted with the North of the American Civil War. Lumiere is
perfectly plausible and we could, as I mentioned call it the Lumiere of
TirRigh as there are many examples medievally to support this type of name.
We could try to define it with a colour such as the Lumiere Or then all we
would have to do is define what the lumiere is, a candle? a torch? etc. I
also suggest the "Order of the Light Bearer" which can be documented by the
"The Sword Bearers" Livonia, 1201CE.

The Lightning Spear is clear of conflict as far as I am able to determine.
I am also going to send the info on the awards to our ban-Tanist Caoimhinn
who has emailed yesterday me asking for the information on the awards."

I like the idea of creating a name for the award that would also match a
herald, but I don't know how far from the original award concepts their
Highness would want to move to create such serendipity.  At the moment we
have no awards that would coincide with a voice herald for example and
neither Lilies nor Lights can be easily worked into it.  Although with
tongue in cheek, I suggest Lumiere for a Court Herald, as it is what they
need most to read scrolls in a dark court.  :)

There is also, the Glowing Ember, the Guardian and the Princesses Talon of
Favor didn't pass either ( as you will recall, they were the next group to
deal with after the above 3 had been sorted out)  and they might have some
room for adjustment as  well.  I will start working on them, and I would
love to have input from Tir Righ's other heralds.  Hi out there!

And we have to remember the final choices are always those of the Prince and
Princess and our duty to help them find things they like and we can get
passed, nice if the worked both ways though.

Yours heraldically,

Theocharista Red Flame









  -----Original Message-----
  From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org]On Behalf Of Quentin Martel
  Sent: May 31, 2007 10:05 PM
  To: 'mark hood'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
  Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea!


  I, for one, wouldn't mind recognizing the double duty of the award name.
Theocharista, what are the Etoile names we've been working on?

  - QSY



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