[tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

[Quentin Martel]

Neither am I. This is far from my field of expertise in the heraldic
community. I'm thinking that Lightning is a more common modifier than
Rising, though, so it may work despite the precedent that Teceangl found.

 

- QSY

 

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From: Caitrina Sable Loat [mailto:Caitrina at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:39 AM
To: 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

 

I'm not 100% sure.  We would definitely have to ensure the dictionary
reference is included in our documentation.  But it's worth a shot right?
Or is that bolt?  Lightning.. Bolt.. Sorry, it's early for me.

 

Caitrina

 

From: Quentin Martel [mailto:quentin at shittimwoode.org] 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:25 PM
To: 'Caitrina Sable Loat'; 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

 

Great points!

 

According to http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lightning, lightning can
be used as a noun, verb, or adjective. In it's adjective case, we fit
perfectly into the Adjective + Thing pattern listed at
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/ (Adjective + Thing - Holy
Phial, Precious Blood, Pontifical Medal).

 

Would that work?

 

- QSY

 

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From: Caitrina Sable Loat [mailto:Caitrina at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:36 PM
To: 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

My lord Uilliam is suggesting the Stone Spear with Stone being an adjective.
(Stone, mountains. you get the gist).  Adjective + Thing does follow
frequently used patterns in accordance with the Project Ordensnamen.
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/ 

 

Caitrina

 

From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Caitrina Sable
Loat
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:18 PM
To: 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

 

I'm not sure if Lightning Spear would follow acceptable order naming
practices.  To me Lightning is a "thing" and I can find no instance showing
this would be acceptable.  It would be Lightning + Spear so Thing + Thing.
Although infrequent, it should be acceptable to name it Lightning & Spear
but that kind of takes away from the idea.  I'll keep looking and if anyone
thinks Lightning is not a thing let me know.

 

Caitrina

 

From: collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org
[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Quentin Martel
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:32 PM
To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

 

Another thread for discussion a particular award name to pass.

 

Lightning Spear. This is to rename the Shattered Spear. The issue there is
there's no medieval precedent for a broken weapon to be an actual award.
Rather it was something you tried to avoid. I believe that the Old Shattered
Shield is passed through being passed when we accepted all sorts of
interesting things as valid documentation.

 

I like Lightning Spear! It's a spear, it fits the Tir Righ motif. The
holders of it can and should be proud of it.

 

Please discuss!

 

- Quentin Silver Yale

 

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From: Rosemary Underhill [mailto:cocinera at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 11:46 AM
To: Quentin Martel; 'mark hood'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea!

 

The Lightning Spear is clear of conflict as far as I am able to determine.

I am also going to send the info on the awards to our ban-Tanist Caoimhinn

who has emailed yesterday me asking for the information on the awards."

 

 

 

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