[tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion
mark hood
mhood at shaw.ca
Sun Jun 3 21:31:08 PDT 2007
Hum. I think I'm still on the fence on this one. To me, Lightning still
doesn't fall into the same category as the examples given. This Blood is
Precious. This is the Pontifical Medal. This Phial is Holy.
This Spear is Lightning.
Maybe it's me, but I'm still debating this one.
Ullm
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[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Quentin Martel
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:25 PM
To: 'Caitrina Sable Loat'; 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion
Great points!
According to http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lightning, lightning can
be used as a noun, verb, or adjective. In it's adjective case, we fit
perfectly into the Adjective + Thing pattern listed at
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/ (Adjective + Thing - Holy
Phial, Precious Blood, Pontifical Medal).
Would that work?
- QSY
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From: Caitrina Sable Loat [mailto:Caitrina at shaw.ca]
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:36 PM
To: 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion
My lord Uilliam is suggesting the Stone Spear with Stone being an adjective.
(Stone, mountains. you get the gist). Adjective + Thing does follow
frequently used patterns in accordance with the Project Ordensnamen.
http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/
Caitrina
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[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Caitrina Sable
Loat
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 10:18 PM
To: 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion
I'm not sure if Lightning Spear would follow acceptable order naming
practices. To me Lightning is a "thing" and I can find no instance showing
this would be acceptable. It would be Lightning + Spear so Thing + Thing.
Although infrequent, it should be acceptable to name it Lightning & Spear
but that kind of takes away from the idea. I'll keep looking and if anyone
thinks Lightning is not a thing let me know.
Caitrina
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[mailto:collegeofheralds-bounces at tirrigh.org] On Behalf Of Quentin Martel
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 9:32 PM
To: collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion
Another thread for discussion a particular award name to pass.
Lightning Spear. This is to rename the Shattered Spear. The issue there is
there's no medieval precedent for a broken weapon to be an actual award.
Rather it was something you tried to avoid. I believe that the Old Shattered
Shield is passed through being passed when we accepted all sorts of
interesting things as valid documentation.
I like Lightning Spear! It's a spear, it fits the Tir Righ motif. The
holders of it can and should be proud of it.
Please discuss!
- Quentin Silver Yale
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From: Rosemary Underhill [mailto:cocinera at shaw.ca]
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 11:46 AM
To: Quentin Martel; 'mark hood'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: RE: [tirrigh-heralds] What a cool idea!
The Lightning Spear is clear of conflict as far as I am able to determine.
I am also going to send the info on the awards to our ban-Tanist Caoimhinn
who has emailed yesterday me asking for the information on the awards."
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