[tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

Quentin Martel quentin at shittimwoode.org
Sun Jun 3 12:37:39 PDT 2007


There is ample examples for Christian deities in awards names in period. Are
there such examples for other mythologies?

- QSY

-----Original Message-----
From: HL Anthony Hawke - GdS [mailto:anthony.hawke at shaw.ca] 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:02 AM
To: Caitrina Sable Loat
Cc: 'Britt'; 'Quentin Martel'; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

*Iff* that fails, we may want to consider mythical/Heroic or deific figures
that were known in period to throw spears.

Notables would be Achilles, Zeus, a (Roman) Legionaire, Odin (and the
variant spellings thereof), etc. 
If we were to try to keep a vestige of the Olde Shattered Spear in there, we
could select a hero who is killed on the battlefield, such as Patroclus
(whose death inspired Achilles to win the day) or Hector, the Prince that
was killed by Achilles to end the war.  (I see alot of symbolism in the last
one)


-AH

----- Original Message -----
From: Caitrina Sable Loat <Caitrina at shaw.ca>
Date: Sunday, June 3, 2007 9:48 am
Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion

> Opps, I should have read all my email before replying the first 
> time.  We
> need documentation showing Lightning being used in period as an 
> adjective.Our Webster's  Collegiate Dictionary shows Lightning 
> used as an adjective in
> 1640 - "having or moving with or as if with the speed and 
> suddenness of
> lightning".  Anyone else got anything?
> 
> Caitrina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Britt [mailto:tierna.britt at gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 11:54 PM
> To: Quentin Martel
> Cc: Caitrina Sable Loat; collegeofheralds at tirrigh.org
> Subject: Re: [tirrigh-heralds] Lightning Spear discussion
> 
> > Great points!
> >
> > According to
> > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/lightning, lightning
> > can be used as a noun, verb, or adjective. In it's adjective 
> case, we fit
> > perfectly into the Adjective + Thing pattern listed at
> > http://www.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/names/order/ (Adjective
> > + Thing - Holy Phial, Precious Blood, Pontifical Medal).
> >
> > Would that work?
> 
> Maybe not.
> 
>     [Award of the Rising Star] This name is being returned for lack
> of documentation of the
>     construction of the order name. No documentation was provided,
> and the College found
>     none, that an abstract descriptive such as Rising was used to
> modify a noun such as Star
>     in period order names. Barring such documentation, this name must
> be returned.
>     [Ansteorra, Kingdom of, 09/01, R-Ansteorra]
> 
> - Teceangl
> 
> 
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