[tirrigh-heralds] Heraldic Titles for Tir Righ

[Judy Harcus]

Further to this, I just looked up 'silver (adj.) in the online MED 
(Middle English Dictionary which is at 
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/med/lookup.html for those who don't know).

The description at the top gives the variations: "(a) Made of silver; ~ 
foil; ~ plate, coins made of silver; souen ~ sede, fig. to give bribes; 
(b) like silver; lustrous or gleaming like silver; also fig.; ~ scaled, 
with silvery scales; ~ worm, a glowworm; (c) her. argent; (d) in 
surnames and place names [see Smith PNElem.2.119]."

I found (c) interesting as it mentions being equivalent to argent in 
heraldry.  Under (c) I found: examples of the word 'silver' used in 
heraldic blazons including in the field (so it's not just referring to a 
charge made out of silver).
"(c)  (1456) Doc.in Nicholl Ironmongers 
<http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/hyp-idx?type=id&id=hyp.724.19991101T123123>   
26:  Siluer, a cheueron of Gowles, sitte betwene three Gaddes of Stele 
of Asure.  (c1460) Bk.Arms in Anc.5 (Hrl 2169) 
<http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/hyp-idx?type=id&id=hyp.420.19990513T124835>   
188:  John Olney beryth gowlys besaunte..ij leberdys sylwys crownyd wt 
gowlys armyd wt asewre.  (c1460) Bk.Arms in Anc.7 (Hrl 2169) 
<http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/hyp-idx?type=id&id=hyp.421.19990513T124835>   
186:  [Party silver and gules with] ij bewerys sylwyr and gowlys 
countergolorys.  (c1466) Paston 
<http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/hyp-idx?type=id&id=hyp.768.19981211T105002>   
2.552:  Which Raffe senior bare armes as his father, and Robert the 
younger bare silver flowret azure.  (c1475) Exped.Edw.IV (Arms 2M.16) 
<http://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/m/mec/hyp-idx?type=id&id=hyp.988.19991101T123123>   
2a:  Therll of Northumberland..Cressant siluer; Therll of 
Ryuers..scaleipp siluer. "

Alicia

Judy Harcus wrote:

> We just registered "Silver Pillar Herald" (Dec 2009).  The use of 
> "Silver" is also grandfathered to Tir Righ for both heraldic titles 
> and order names.
>
> However we don't have to rely totally on that since the May 2008 Cover 
> Letter states:
> "Silver in order and award names: The August 2005 cover letter says 
> that "orders named for heraldic charges or for items that, while not 
> found in period as heraldic charges, may be used as heraldic 
> charges...may contain the ordinary color names of any heraldic 
> tincture." This includes the use of Silver as the ordinary color name 
> of argent."
>
> Alicia
>
> Richenda du Jardin wrote:
>
>> Check precedents -- silver can be tricky to use in titles. Silver 
>> wasn't used as a color term in period; it referred to the metal.
>>
>> Richenda
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/2010 9:50 AM, Judy Harcus wrote:
>>
>>> I'd be more inclined towards "Silver Saltire" to match other Tir Righ
>>> awards/titles - and it has nice alliteration too ;-)
>>>
>>> Alicia
>>>
>>> Richenda du Jardin wrote:
>>>
>>>> As for a name for the voice herald, hmmmm. White Saltire herald? You
>>>> need the white in the title to be clear of Northshield's Saltire
>>>> herald. I thought drawing a name from a charge on the Tir Righ's arms
>>>> would be nice for the voice herald (and also has some marshallate
>>>> connotations).
>>>>
>>>> Richenda
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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